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Re: Those Covid -19 vaccines... [Re: Canvasback2] #7252023
04/26/21 06:25 AM
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I'd agree Danny in hindsight, although I think doctors are probably struggling more than most, because answers are shielded to them also and they are frustrated. Medical conversations happen each day all day, and Covid has a shroud over it and when doctors ask "what, where, when, which," they get push back from Uncle Sam's minions and collaboration is not an option. Docs I know say they just go it alone and that's weird for them.

Reading several philosophers lately who say 2020 may well be the year of a start of a new world age, similar to what happened about 400 years ago. We are, they say, perhaps in the beginnings of the next 400 years, with Covid being the straw that tipped the camel's back in that direction. There will be no returning to yesteryear. 2020 was the start of a "new normal."

Oh well. Glad gramps & company sacrificed beyond measure and whipped those Krauts. We had a good 75 year run. We were alive during a wonderful time in a wonderful land.

Blessings Danny!
Mark

Re: Those Covid -19 vaccines... [Re: Canvasback2] #7252026
04/26/21 06:31 AM
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Computers are without any doubt the beginning of a new age. I think the last "new age" started about 1500. World travel became a reality. The people with the most technology became the masters of those with less. That idea is what motivates Snowden and others to "open source" everything. I don't think you and I will live long enough to see what this age does to us humans.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Those Covid -19 vaccines... [Re: Canvasback2] #7252036
04/26/21 06:56 AM
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The articles I've been reading point to the late Renaissance period of the late 1500's as the start of great learning into the Enlightened Era that followed. They point to the centuries leading up to this period and the printing press revolutionizing the spread of human learning. Some areas become great bastions of higher learning and these areas dominated the world including the Americas with it's very educated and motivated Puritan influence. And here we are.

And these 400+ year have been nurturing toward a world whereby Covid of the 19th strain came at the opportune time to usher in world change that will progress from here.

Who knows right?

I'm finishing studies these next two weeks and then Donna and I are headed to trapping in south Texas for 3 weeks. It'll be HOT!
I'm old fashioned I guess.
I'm a male. Period. Was made that way.
Married to one woman.
Dominion over the beasts. Especially coyotes.
And fear (obey) of the Lord.
Teaching our tribe the same as best I can amide a morphing culture that more and more each day,
picks their gender,
discounts marriage to the opposite sex,
kills human babies but pours sympathy to saving all sorts of whales, darter snails, and owl eggs,
and discounts how they got here in the first place.

Covid vaccines and masks and social distancing do not solve much of anything in the big scope of life things.
Eat, drink, and be merry continues.


Blessings,
Mark

Re: Those Covid -19 vaccines... [Re: Canvasback2] #7252038
04/26/21 07:03 AM
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The printing press did put a hurt on the popes absolute authority. People who were skeptical of it all were still put to death but the popes authority over all things was in question throughout Europe. World travel effected everyone on the planet. No matter their religion.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Those Covid -19 vaccines... [Re: Canvasback2] #7252040
04/26/21 07:07 AM
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Valid points.
Seems any time you put us humans in charge of much, we find creative ways to put me, myself, and I in charge of all of it.
Been going on a very long time.


Blessings,
Mark

Re: Those Covid -19 vaccines... [Re: Canvasback2] #7252305
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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
-Edmund Burke
"We are fast approaching... rule by brute force."
-Ayn Rand
Re: Those Covid -19 vaccines... [Re: DuxDawg] #7252312
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Im still not taking it! LOL!

Re: Those Covid -19 vaccines... [Re: Canvasback2] #7252321
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Just read that the one billionth vaccine in the world was administered today. I've had two myself

Re: Those Covid -19 vaccines... [Re: Canvasback2] #7252380
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Then why are you still wearing a mask?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Those Covid -19 vaccines... [Re: charles] #7252397
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Originally Posted by charles
Just read that the one billionth vaccine in the world was administered today. I've had two myself

Why? What do you think it will do for you? Does it make you immune? Does it make it where you no longer need a mask? Does it make it so you don't have to social distance? Do you just think you are safe? I am trying to figure out the benefits, if there is any.


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Re: Those Covid -19 vaccines... [Re: Canvasback2] #7252401
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I'm trying to figure out why charles statements seem to bother you so much.
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Re: Those Covid -19 vaccines... [Re: MJM] #7252405
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Originally Posted by MJM
Originally Posted by charles
Just read that the one billionth vaccine in the world was administered today. I've had two myself

Why? What do you think it will do for you? Does it make you immune? Does it make it where you no longer need a mask? Does it make it so you don't have to social distance? Do you just think you are safe? I am trying to figure out the benefits, if there is any.



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Re: Those Covid -19 vaccines... [Re: MJM] #7252415
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Originally Posted by MJM
Originally Posted by charles
Just read that the one billionth vaccine in the world was administered today. I've had two myself

Why? What do you think it will do for you? Does it make you immune? Does it make it where you no longer need a mask? Does it make it so you don't have to social distance? Do you just think you are safe? I am trying to figure out the benefits, if there is any.


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Re: Those Covid -19 vaccines... [Re: Bogmaster] #7252495
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Originally Posted by Bogmaster
I'm trying to figure out why charles statements seem to bother you so much.
Tom

Charles statements don't bother me, I am trying to figure out why he and others are so proud they got a couple shots. Is there a reason to be proud that I can't see? As I said I am trying to figure out the benefits, if there are any.


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Re: Those Covid -19 vaccines... [Re: MJM] #7252553
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Originally Posted by MJM
Originally Posted by Bogmaster
I'm trying to figure out why charles statements seem to bother you so much.
Tom

Charles statements don't bother me, I am trying to figure out why he and others are so proud they got a couple shots. Is there a reason to be proud that I can't see? As I said I am trying to figure out the benefits, if there are any.

amen -- all I can see so far is that the risks outweigh the rewards. I am not seeing any benefits so far. I am in decent health and don't have many risk factors to be covidly fatal. My parents both got the shots -- good for them. There is not 1 PROVEN benefit to the vaccines. Lets see how they are in a couple of years -- then maybe.

Re: Those Covid -19 vaccines... [Re: Bogmaster] #7252624
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Originally Posted by Bogmaster
I'm trying to figure out why charles statements seem to bother you so much.
Tom


Maybe they remember the moral of "The emporor's new clothes"

Mike


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