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Sleepy Creek vs Victor Long springs #7257444
05/04/21 01:36 PM
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For those of you that have used both Sleepy Creek and Victor/Blake and Lamb #3 or 4 long springs on coyotes or bobcat, do you feel the cost of the Sleepy longs are worth it over the older Victors/Blakes? Thanks

Re: Sleepy Creek vs Victor Long springs [Re: nov1181] #7257449
05/04/21 01:39 PM
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Iowa
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Not if you find strong used traps IMO. The old B&L hold their strength very well.

Re: Sleepy Creek vs Victor Long springs [Re: nov1181] #7257474
05/04/21 02:03 PM
05/04/21 02:03 PM
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Consider the cost of adding PIT pans….

I agree that good strong springs are fine in old traps. B and L have some of the best.


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Re: Sleepy Creek vs Victor Long springs [Re: nov1181] #7257543
05/04/21 03:40 PM
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Either one for me. Dont forget the #4 bridger long


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Re: Sleepy Creek vs Victor Long springs [Re: nov1181] #7257618
05/04/21 05:41 PM
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Blak spot read my mind...did you guys know that Bridger also made a #3 dbls back in the day?

Re: Sleepy Creek vs Victor Long springs [Re: nov1181] #7257633
05/04/21 05:57 PM
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I have #3 sleepy creek and victors, the sleepy creeks are stronger, faster than the victors, the sleepy creeks i put rod dogs on, the victors, pit pans and base plated, close to the same cost after mods.
My #4 are sleepy creek and bridgers

Re: Sleepy Creek vs Victor Long springs [Re: nov1181] #7257744
05/04/21 08:38 PM
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I like the old Blake and Lambs better than the Victors, but I've got lots of Victors and never had a problem with them. Blake and Lambs tend to have stronger springs though. The only Sleepy Creeks I have are 4 1/2s which are a good trap, super stout springs. They are built like a Newhouse with the baseplate sticking out past the jaws so you can't break them over your knee like a Victor or a Blake and Lamb. Not sure if their smaller longsprings are built like this or not. I like the traps and they have a pan setup like a PIT pan, but if I was setting a lot of traps in a day I would prefer the ones you can break over your knee. Dealing with trapsetters is a pain, especially using the bodygrip setters and U clips like Sleepy Creek sells for them big 4 1/2s. Been going to get me some Jiffy trapsetters for them, but haven't yet. Knew an old guy who used them on the Newhouse 48s and heard several people say they work well on the SC 4 1/2s.

Re: Sleepy Creek vs Victor Long springs [Re: nov1181] #7257898
05/04/21 11:15 PM
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Jiffy setters work great on the sc 4.5's.

Dont forget sometimes you can pick up a #3 newhouse for the price of a new sc #3


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Re: Sleepy Creek vs Victor Long springs [Re: nov1181] #7257923
05/04/21 11:54 PM
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I'd like to try a sleepy creek 4.5 where would the best place to look be seeing as there not made anymore?


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Re: Sleepy Creek vs Victor Long springs [Re: nov1181] #7257931
05/05/21 12:03 AM
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Murray's lures has some

Re: Sleepy Creek vs Victor Long springs [Re: nov1181] #7257958
05/05/21 01:22 AM
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I thought they were being made again. I got a couple off the Trap Shed and bought some more from Murray's when Sleepy Creek quit making them. You could find the closed jawed ones a few places but since I wanted offsets for wolves Murray's was the place I found with offsets in stock.

Re: Sleepy Creek vs Victor Long springs [Re: nov1181] #7259861
05/07/21 11:52 PM
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Out of stock on Murrays as well, Going to have to watch the trap shed.


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Re: Sleepy Creek vs Victor Long springs [Re: nov1181] #7260717
05/09/21 09:07 AM
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The only thing I don't like about my #3 sleepy creek traps is that when I break over my knee I feel that the jaw posts will bend out and the only way that I cured that was by adding my own baseplate onto it. But I haven't had any problems with the #2. I try and find all the good older Victor's I can find being I've always had good luck with them


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Re: Sleepy Creek vs Victor Long springs [Re: nov1181] #7262093
05/11/21 08:43 AM
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Yes I am not finding any SC in stock at this time either. Was going to get a few and try them, but I will probably stick with the Victor and Victor 3N's for now.

Re: Sleepy Creek vs Victor Long springs [Re: nov1181] #7262195
05/11/21 10:49 AM
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You might call sterling fur for the 4.5's


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Re: Sleepy Creek vs Victor Long springs [Re: nov1181] #7262236
05/11/21 11:51 AM
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Southern Snares night have some new old stock since they bought SC.

Re: Sleepy Creek vs Victor Long springs [Re: nov1181] #7262946
05/12/21 01:18 PM
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I've used a lot of different DLS but the way I have my SCs set up has me spoiled. The bases are soft but I add a plate to all of them anyway so in the end it doesn't matter


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Re: Sleepy Creek vs Victor Long springs [Re: nov1181] #7263429
05/13/21 07:56 AM
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I have some Bridger No 4s and some old Victor No 3s that are in good shape.

Is there anyone else making No 3s?


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Re: Sleepy Creek vs Victor Long springs [Re: nov1181] #7263448
05/13/21 08:35 AM
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Rodney,Ohio
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LPC make a 6 1/8" outside spread trap though that's closer to a #4 in dbl long size

Re: Sleepy Creek vs Victor Long springs [Re: nov1181] #7263478
05/13/21 09:32 AM
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Those look nice but dang they are pricey.


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