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Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bob maier] #7669737
09/12/22 08:29 AM
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Rodney does some fantastic trap mod work. Good looking traps and wolf guys.

Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bob maier] #7670433
09/13/22 07:33 AM
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Sorry Sneaky. I haven't been home in four days and pretty sure the wife has a list that I'm not going to get done. I'll be in and out for the next two months, mostly out. I like tinkering when I have time and really should buy some more to mod up for myself when I have nothing better (or at least that I would rather) to do.

I think the new Duke 850s are going to take over a lot of the low end wolf trap market. And rightfully so, they are a pretty nice trap for the money, just make sure the trap will go off before the pan bottoms out (seen two out of a half dozen my dad bought that wouldn't out of the box). They don't have as powerful of springs to come up through the crust though as a four coiled TS85. I really like my modded TS85s over anything but a NO BS or a Koro.

Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bearcat2] #7670713
09/13/22 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bearcat2
Sorry Sneaky. I haven't been home in four days and pretty sure the wife has a list that I'm not going to get done. I'll be in and out for the next two months, mostly out. I like tinkering when I have time and really should buy some more to mod up for myself when I have nothing better (or at least that I would rather) to do.

I think the new Duke 850s are going to take over a lot of the low end wolf trap market. And rightfully so, they are a pretty nice trap for the money, just make sure the trap will go off before the pan bottoms out (seen two out of a half dozen my dad bought that wouldn't out of the box). They don't have as powerful of springs to come up through the crust though as a four coiled TS85. I really like my modded TS85s over anything but a NO BS or a Koro.

The new NO BS Wolf Jrs I think are the trap to beat in that low to mid priced range. The 850s may have it beat on jaw spread but that's about it. No mods needed and plenty strong. I've got a half dozen TS85s here if you decide you want some more. Right now I'm enjoying some long waited rain, tracks tomorrow will be fresh.


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Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bob maier] #7670816
09/13/22 06:59 PM
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I got a few of the Bridger #5 dogless from MTP to try for wolves. Very impressed. Similar dimensions to the 750 and better built than the Duke 850s, IMO at a similar price. I'd love to have a few dozen for early season. I really don't care for the floppy pans on those 850s. The modded TS 85s are still my go-to for crusty conditions.

Bridger #5 dogless and Duke 850:
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750; Bridger 5; 850; TS85:

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Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bob maier] #7670833
09/13/22 07:27 PM
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Jump, Sneaky andBearcat, have you ever used. JC Conners Jake Trap and caught a wolf?

Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bob maier] #7670937
09/13/22 09:20 PM
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Nice work Rodney.


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Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: MChewk] #7671072
09/14/22 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by MChewk
Jump, Sneaky andBearcat, have you ever used. JC Conners Jake Trap and caught a wolf?

No, but I've caught a wolf in a NO BS K9 Extreme with JC Conner rod swivels! [Linked Image]

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Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: Jumperzee] #7671074
09/14/22 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Jumperzee
I got a few of the Bridger #5 dogless from MTP to try for wolves. Very impressed. Similar dimensions to the 750 and better built than the Duke 850s, IMO at a similar price. I'd love to have a few dozen for early season. I really don't care for the floppy pans on those 850s. The modded TS 85s are still my go-to for crusty conditions.

Bridger #5 dogless and Duke 850:
[Linked Image]

750; Bridger 5; 850; TS85:

[Linked Image]


I looked at those Bridger #5s the other day on MTP. Which trap you got waiting on that wolf at that scent post? Even more important, which one can you set faster? Lol


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Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bob maier] #7671122
09/14/22 07:17 AM
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I've never even seen a Jake trap. Read quite a bit about them and know they are very popular back east, but I don't know anyone out west that has owned one. I know guys have held them fine in K9 Extremes and MB650s, but the foot is about the size of the trap, so you are already looking at a lot of toe catches, get a few inches of snow over that...

Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bob maier] #7671130
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I grew up using floppy pan traps, so I guess that doesn't bother me. I do like the dogless for wolves though, I feel like you are going to have bent dogs almost every catch with the Dukes, even with those rod dogs. Never thought I'd like dogless traps until I tried them, but once I tried them I like them. No mods needed on that Bridger 5? The ones I've looked at that guys got were usually the beaver version and needed quite a bit of work. There are places I won't set the TS85s. I love'em but they are awful big and powerful around nontargets.

Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bob maier] #7671343
09/14/22 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bob maier
Ok guys thinking about trying some TS-85 for wolves. What kinda mods do I need to do to these traps, besides welding offsets and jaw laminations?



Music wire springs, to start.

( I wanted to say : a different trap, but held my tongue )
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Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: LT GREY] #7671938
09/15/22 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by LT GREY
Originally Posted by bob maier
Ok guys thinking about trying some TS-85 for wolves. What kinda mods do I need to do to these traps, besides welding offsets and jaw laminations?



Music wire springs, to start.

( I wanted to say : a different trap, but held my tongue )
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Nah, I four coil'em with all TS85 springs.

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Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bob maier] #7672077
09/15/22 03:38 PM
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Bearcat, I four coil them with TS85 springs also.


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Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bob maier] #7672145
09/15/22 06:18 PM
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I personally would just go with the mb 750 wolf trap. Only a few bucks more than a standard ts85 and no modding needed.

Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bob maier] #7672157
09/15/22 06:57 PM
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I run both, no comparison. The TS85 is A LOT more trap, much better in the freeze/thaw, crusty conditions and having to come up through a bunch of snow. On the other hand, it is a BIG trap and will hold onto whatever it grabs, the 750 is a better choice in some situations and areas because of that. Personally I've found the 750 to be the worst of any trap I've tried to freeze up, they do bed easy, and take less waxed dirt than any other trap I've used though, and are ready to go out of the box, they have some other issues that bother some people more than others, but if they go off and grab ahold of a wolf they will hold it.

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