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TS-85 for wolves #7286970
06/15/21 11:32 AM
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Ok guys thinking about trying some TS-85 for wolves. What kinda mods do I need to do to these traps, besides welding offsets and jaw laminations?

Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bob maier] #7286984
06/15/21 12:16 PM
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If you don't already have some then just buy some already modified from Dan Helterline in MT. Everything is already done that needs to be done.


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Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bob maier] #7287047
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I prefer offsets cut out rather than welded lugs, but either will work. I had a neighbor with a milling machine mill 1/4 offsets in some for me, and then laminated with flat bar rather than round, but again, either will work. Buying from Dan is the easiest if you just want some traps to use. If you are on a budget and like to tinker and mod stuff yourself you can do it yourself though. I would recommend if you are going to do the mods yourself to buy a trap or traps from Dan for a template and save yourself a lot of headscratching on what exactly you want to do.

Not strictly necessary but I really like Dan's lug on the bottom of the jaw to hold the pan. Which he freely admits to stealing the idea from Kendall of NO BS traps. I in turn stole it myself when I modded my own. It causes the pan to set lower than the jaws, nicely.

Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bob maier] #7287109
06/15/21 05:27 PM
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Springs on the are barley adequate to hold some of the beavers they get a hold of. I'd look into their lock up with the levers too if I ever wanted to try them for wolves.

Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bob maier] #7287110
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From my dealings and other that have dealt with TS85s on the beaver line that would be the last trap I would use for trapping wolves.


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Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bob maier] #7287301
06/15/21 09:52 PM
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adc and beav,,its obvious neither of you have ever even seen a wolf modified 85. dans traps are 1/4" milled offset, laminated reinforced jaws, lowered pan and 4 coiled, with an outrigger/spring keeper that bolts to the frame x-piece. extreme over kill for a beaver. you wont set them by stepping on the levers and pulling up on the jaws if you weigh less than 200 pounds, and then its still a struggle. never heard of a lost wolf or lion in an 85.

Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: fossil2] #7287406
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Originally Posted by fossil2
adc and beav,,its obvious neither of you have ever even seen a wolf modified 85. dans traps are 1/4" milled offset, laminated reinforced jaws, lowered pan and 4 coiled, with an outrigger/spring keeper that bolts to the frame x-piece. extreme over kill for a beaver. you wont set them by stepping on the levers and pulling up on the jaws if you weigh less than 200 pounds, and then its still a struggle. never heard of a lost wolf or lion in an 85.


Sounds like he may as well build the traps from scratch by the time he does all that to make them worthwhile.

Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bob maier] #7287466
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Couple of other little mods he does to them also, but other than milling the offset everything is pretty simple and requires no special tools other than a welder. I've built a couple traps from scratch and I've done the mods. The mods are way simpler.

Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bob maier] #7288623
06/17/21 09:15 PM
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I modify the TS85s for mountain lion trappers. Laminate the jaws tip to tip, re-enforce the welds, add a longer spring pin, 4 coils and a keeper plate. Very strong traps.[Linked Image]

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Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: ETexTrapper] #7288717
06/17/21 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ETexTrapper
I modify the TS85s for mountain lion trappers. Laminate the jaws tip to tip, re-enforce the welds, add a longer spring pin, 4 coils and a keeper plate. Very strong traps.[Linked Image]

Out of curiosity, what do those mods cost, per trap?

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Made it almost 3 years without censor!

Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bob maier] #7288749
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Around $35 per trap.

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Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bob maier] #7289084
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very nice job on the mods. you obviously take pride in your work.

Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bob maier] #7289092
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Nice work On the mods.

If I ever draw a wolf tag here In Wi I wouldn't hesitate to use My Duke 650s.
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Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bob maier] #7289099
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Thanks. Appreciate that.


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Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bob maier] #7292634
06/24/21 03:29 AM
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I love the modified ones from Dan. He said it's about 10 to 12 bucks to modify them if you can weld.
I've caught several wolves this last season in them. Hands down my favorite wolf trap, even over the AK #9. I had 2 cerakoted as we live and trap in the salt, and they are holding up real well
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Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bob maier] #7293163
06/24/21 07:22 PM
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Talked with Dan at the western nta but forgot to ask him where to find his traps for sale, anyone have a site to find them at?

Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bob maier] #7293229
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call Dan

Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bob maier] #7299941
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Modded a dozen TS_85s today [Linked Image]
Milled offset, flat bar lamination and four coiled
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Keystock welded to spring lever so loose jaw lays flat
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Keystock welded on bottom of jaw for lowered pan catch.

Re: TS-85 for wolves [Re: bob maier] #7300082
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Nice job on the mods.


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