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Different lures for different climates/regions #7334000
08/19/21 10:28 AM
08/19/21 10:28 AM
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I am positive I asked this years ago on Tman, but for the life of me, I can't find it. Had a discussion with a buddy the other night and this came up. He claimed he never buys lures from luremakers far away from our state.

How many trappers purposely buy lures from lure makers in their own "region" or geographic area ? Reason being, they feel a lure with a recipe crafted for one areas critters may not work for another areas. Warm climate critters would not be as effective for northern cold weather or open country out west vs dense forest/swamp.

Glands are for the most part, glands, but things animals eat, scents they are accustomed to vary. I understand a change up, long call additive or curiosity scent should work with regularity, but go-to gland lures or all call lures, does it matter to you?

We are all suckers for cool names and promises of secret rare ingredients for the "Best lure for ____ on the market", but does the location of the lure maker matter to you?


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Re: Different lures for different climates/regions [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #7334011
08/19/21 11:01 AM
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To me and these southern critters it doesn't matter.


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Re: Different lures for different climates/regions [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #7334013
08/19/21 11:04 AM
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More worried about what lures are heavily used in the region than where they were made. Ie... Most of my beaver work is nuisance work and if I know everyone and their brother is using Backbreaker and failing somehow... I'm using something else. Sorry Paul

Re: Different lures for different climates/regions [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7334022
08/19/21 11:23 AM
08/19/21 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
To me and these southern critters it doesn't matter.


That's been my experience here in MI. It was an interesting discussion though, which is why I asked.



Originally Posted by SNIPERB🦝
More worried about what lures are heavily used in the region than where they were made


I feel this is true 100%, seem to lose some of the head turning ability if it becomes a standard scent or the area is carpetbombed with lure. My trapping partner and I almost never use the same lures when running a line or trapping an area together.


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Re: Different lures for different climates/regions [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #7334023
08/19/21 11:26 AM
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My buddy had a few head scratcher points though. How's a Michigan animal know what a alligator smells like or snake base. Or a Arizona critter what mink glands smell like.

And I understand certain odors have an effect whether they have ever smelled it before or not, but it was worth pondering.


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Re: Different lures for different climates/regions [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #7334025
08/19/21 11:30 AM
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I like using lures that I find locally because I like supporting those businesses and I do feel they have an edge in my area. All of the local guys use these baits and lures here, and they know what works here.

Don't twist my words, I think the big name lures are still great, but I think there's something to be said for supporting your local guys.

Most of the time a conversation with these guys at a convention or demo will yield far more than a click of a mouse on a computer to order lure.

Whether its information or advice on trapping techniques, a higher catch rate, or just simply supporting local business, I think baits and lures from your region make you a more effective trapper.


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Re: Different lures for different climates/regions [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #7334030
08/19/21 11:38 AM
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I've tested a lot of lure ingredients on coyotes and I promise u a coyote doesn't have to have smelled an ingredient before or "know what it is" for it to be highly addictive to them.

Re: Different lures for different climates/regions [Re: coondagger2] #7334038
08/19/21 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by coondagger2
I like using lures that I find locally because I like supporting those businesses and I do feel they have an edge in my area. All of the local guys use these baits and lures here, and they know what works here.

Don't twist my words, I think the big name lures are still great, but I think there's something to be said for supporting your local guys.

Most of the time a conversation with these guys at a convention or demo will yield far more than a click of a mouse on a computer to order lure.

Whether its information or advice on trapping techniques, a higher catch rate, or just simply supporting local business, I think baits and lures from your region make you a more effective trapper.


This is where I am at. I always have a few bigger name lures in my pack that I have luck with, but I always give a local guy set up at the conventions a whirl too. Many times it seems they have dialed in a recipe based on local use/feedback.


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Re: Different lures for different climates/regions [Re: Yes sir] #7334040
08/19/21 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
I've tested a lot of lure ingredients on coyotes and I promise u a coyote doesn't have to have smelled an ingredient before or "know what it is" for it to be highly addictive to them.


Exactly.

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Re: Different lures for different climates/regions [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #7334043
08/19/21 11:59 AM
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The best lures triggers a reaction. How many coyotes even come across a beaver to know what castor us supposed to do to them? There's just chemical triggers they can't control.

Re: Different lures for different climates/regions [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #7334098
08/19/21 01:18 PM
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I like to use the lesser known lures due to other trappers in the area are less likely to use those.


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Re: Different lures for different climates/regions [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #7334548
08/19/21 09:57 PM
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Imo I I try to stay away from heavy castor in coyote lure as it seem so many out there and skunk is a nother ingredient over use.
In the right amounts they work great but do not want those smells first out the bottle.
A good lure is a good lure no matter what part of country you live.


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Re: Different lures for different climates/regions [Re: red mt] #7334551
08/19/21 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by red mt
Imo I I try to stay away from heavy castor in coyote lure as it seem so many out there and skunk is a nother ingredient over use.
In the right amounts they work great but do not want those smells first out the bottle.
A good lure is a good lure no matter what part of country you live.

I wouldn't argue with any of those points

Re: Different lures for different climates/regions [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #7334780
08/20/21 09:12 AM
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A good formula is good no matter were its from. I've been honored to test lures from makers from across our country. Curiosity trumps all! besides location of coarse. Not many coyotes from Michigan have ever smelled an aged rattlesnake but boy does it make them dig.. smile the underlying odors too. There's a lot more going on in a coyotes brain than we'll ever know!

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Re: Different lures for different climates/regions [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #7334830
08/20/21 09:57 AM
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Got to agree with Gary as I tested a Mississippi based snake bait a few seasons back and it created some craters dug up by the predators. The innate curiosity that those odors can create some interesting information....and catches. Kind of like bobcat urine/gland in areas with no bobcats....different smell that they have got to check out.

Re: Different lures for different climates/regions [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #7343105
08/30/21 08:25 AM
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Paul's thread on Backbreaker supply issues / North vs South castor kind of lines up with this. Weird ...


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08/30/21 09:57 AM
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I have a beaver colony that feed on sassafras , it's way different than the colonies that feed on willow and poplar.


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Re: Different lures for different climates/regions [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #7343286
08/30/21 01:10 PM
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IDK but I use a lure for New Mexico that has rattlesnake in it that our fox like. We don't have rattlers in my normal trapping area.
I'm just the opposite, I like using western lures.
But might be something to it for certain ingredients.


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