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Re: How the Bible came to be. [Re: Chancey] #7339417
08/25/21 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Chancey
Originally Posted by WhiteTrash 88
Was the book of Enoch originally included in the Bible, or was it rejected because it didn’t fit the Pope’s agenda. I’ve heard it originally was and then tossed.


The Ethiopian Church Bible contains the Book of Enoch, as well as some others. It is well known that Judaism was practiced in Ethiopia long before Christianity. Only speculation, but some scholars believe that there was much more involved with King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba other than a casual meeting; and that she may have had a child by him.

Either way, the history of Judaism and the Church in Ethiopia is a wonderfully interesting one and worth research!



Is it a done deal that Ethiopians was from the tribe of Dan?

Re: How the Bible came to be. [Re: Posco] #7339419
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Posco, sorry don't understand your post?

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Re: How the Bible came to be. [Re: Posco] #7339420
08/25/21 05:31 PM
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Wherever you land, don't fall in to the crevice of thinking Bible trivia or biblical "how to" application expertise will deliver you from evil unto salvation wink

Obey (love) God.
Read your Bible.
Not the other way around.

No use disagreeing about the infinity of God with our finite minds and losing site of the One through whom all things are made.
Your Bible doesn't elect, regenerate, illuminate, justify, sanctify, or glorify anyone.
God does.
Humble hearts, not puffy minds, are valued by God according to His Word.

Blessings,
Mark

Re: How the Bible came to be. [Re: Posco] #7339428
08/25/21 05:37 PM
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I don't know Foxpaw. I know they claim Dan as their line of descent, but I certainly don't think anything is a done deal in that regard.

I could easily see where the New World inhabitants could claim descent from the Tribe of Dan as well. Very interesting stuff!


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Re: How the Bible came to be. [Re: rex123] #7339429
08/25/21 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rex123
Posco, sorry don't understand your post?

Couple of things. I think you mentioned chapter and verse. Of course that's for our ease on finding a particular piece of scripture. And you notice Paul mentioned the letter came from his own hand. That lent authority to his writing in the early church.

Re: How the Bible came to be. [Re: Posco] #7339431
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Interesting verse on masking I read today in Leviticus 13

45 “Anyone with such a defiling disease must wear torn clothes, let their hair be unkempt,[c] cover the lower part of their face and cry out, ‘Unclean! Unclean!’ 46 As long as they have the disease they remain unclean. They must live alone; they must live outside the camp.

Original word on masking and social distancing LOL

Re: How the Bible came to be. [Re: ] #7339433
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Originally Posted by Mark June
Wherever you land, don't fall in to the crevice of thinking Bible trivia or biblical "how to" application expertise will deliver you from evil unto salvation wink

Obey (love) God.
Read your Bible.
Not the other way around.

No use disagreeing about the infinity of God with our finite minds and losing site of the One through whom all things are made.
Your Bible doesn't elect, regenerate, illuminate, justify, sanctify, or glorify anyone.
God does.
Humble hearts, not puffy minds, are valued by God according to His Word.

Blessings,
Mark



^^Great post Mark!


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Re: How the Bible came to be. [Re: Posco] #7339437
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We are talking about two different things.

Re: How the Bible came to be. [Re: ] #7339440
08/25/21 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark June
Wherever you land, don't fall in to the crevice of thinking Bible trivia or biblical "how to" application expertise will deliver you from evil unto salvation wink

Obey (love) God.
Read your Bible.
Not the other way around.

No use disagreeing about the infinity of God with our finite minds and losing site of the One through whom all things are made.
Your Bible doesn't elect, regenerate, illuminate, justify, sanctify, or glorify anyone.
God does.
Humble hearts, not puffy minds, are valued by God according to His Word.

Blessings,
Mark


Now Mark, how can I know how to obey, unless I've read?


I wasn't showing of my Bible trivia. It took me a half hour to write that post crazy


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Re: How the Bible came to be. [Re: amspoker] #7339453
08/25/21 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by amspoker
Originally Posted by Mark June
Wherever you land, don't fall in to the crevice of thinking Bible trivia or biblical "how to" application expertise will deliver you from evil unto salvation wink

Obey (love) God.
Read your Bible.
Not the other way around.

No use disagreeing about the infinity of God with our finite minds and losing site of the One through whom all things are made.
Your Bible doesn't elect, regenerate, illuminate, justify, sanctify, or glorify anyone.
God does.
Humble hearts, not puffy minds, are valued by God according to His Word.

Blessings,
Mark


Now Mark, how can I know how to obey, unless I've read?


I wasn't showing of my Bible trivia. It took me a half hour to write that post crazy


No worries amspoker, my post wasn't to you or anyone in particular. Your post was a good one grin
And the 140 character post from me shoulda been crisper.... in that our affections of our hearts should be aimed at God, revealed through Jesus Christ by the Holy Spirit rather than a book.
The Ten Commandments were never a means to Heaven, as no human can do them. The Levitical priests (and sons of Israel) were supposed to realize this and humble their hearts to YHWH. They did not. They (like some today) use the Scripture as a tool it was never meant to be.... a self-righteous person's claim to supremacy over other people. The Pharisees were Scripture memorizers to the core with 603 additional laws built on top of what God revealed to Moses. Jesus rebuked them all for their ways yet Pharisees are among us still.

But that's ok. The Spirit directs all according to God's Will >>>>> so all is well.
Not perfect.
Just well.
Good post!

Blessings,
Mark

Re: How the Bible came to be. [Re: amspoker] #7339457
08/25/21 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by amspoker


Now Mark, how can I know how to obey, unless I've read?
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The Holy Spirit conviction. Yes, it’s that simple.


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Re: How the Bible came to be. [Re: Posco] #7339468
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The bible is a collection of inspired books. There were more than 100 at one time, but many were destroyed by book burning, particularly during the reign of Bloody Mary. Up until the late 1800's there were 80 books contained in the bible. The apocryphal books got dropped because more people wanted a bible they could carry with them rather than a family bible that sat at home all the time, and it was just too big. The 14 apocryphal books had the least credibility according to the printers so they were left out.

A lot of people gave their lives to translate the bible into english. It's a long story, but many people died because the roman catholic church wanted the bible to remain in Latin because the average person couldn't read latin, so they could tell people what they wanted them to believe. When the bible was translated into english and became known to the common man, things really began to change and the reformation began.

I have researched this a lot and taught classes on it and the history of the bible is really complicated but it's amazing how God preserved his word for us. It's an incredible love story for all people for all time.

People don't like change, it's our nature, and changing translations get people up in a tizzy. Like the pilgrims for example, they didn't bring the King James translation to the new world with them because it was less than a decade old and they didn't trust it. Some things never change.

Re: How the Bible came to be. [Re: danny clifton] #7339480
08/25/21 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Revelation was a discounted book for a long time. Scholars are not agreed on who even wrote it.


I've never heard of Revelation being written by anyone other than John. Who else do these "scholars" say wrote it?


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Re: How the Bible came to be. [Re: yotetrapper30] #7339529
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John is the principle writer for the book there may have been others contributing to the book as there are some big literary swings in the book. John was imprisoned by the Romans when he wrote the book and he had no love for Rome or their empire.

Bryce

Re: How the Bible came to be. [Re: Posco] #7339538
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It was written by A John not THE John. Look up John of Patmos


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Re: How the Bible came to be. [Re: Posco] #7339540
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Would have been nice if they'd used surnames to avoid that confusion.

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Re: How the Bible came to be. [Re: danny clifton] #7339545
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
It was written by A John not THE John. Look up John of Patmos


I already did. And most people seem to think it was John the apostle. Those that don't cite the difference in writing style between the book of John from the Gospel and Revelation. I would be more surprised if his writing style hadn't evolved in the 30+ years in between when John and Revelation were wrote. That, and I think in Revelation you have more of God himself talking, than John. John was just the secretary lol.

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Re: How the Bible came to be. [Re: Posco] #7339559
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The book of John was written in Aramaic but revelations was written in Greek. It wssnt writting style. There is more including the time it was written. It was a couple centuries after Constantine before it was included. Most modern scholars suspect two different people.


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Re: How the Bible came to be. [Re: danny clifton] #7339570
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
The book of John was written in Aramaic but revelations was written in Greek. It wssnt writting style. There is more including the time it was written. It was a couple centuries after Constantine before it was included. Most modern scholars suspect two different people.



Maybe writing style wasn't an issue. Maybe it was just a typo. wink


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As it is written...how many times is that phrase mentioned in the Bible? A bunch.

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