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Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: walleyed] #7339858
08/26/21 09:15 AM
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I am just wonder how many thousand of these $30 beaver a guy has to catch to have money to give away in Canada.


"Not Really, Not Really"
Mark J Monti
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Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: MJM] #7339861
08/26/21 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MJM
I am just wonder how many thousand of these $30 beaver a guy has to catch to have money to give away in Canada.


I suppose it depends on what a person's other incomes are.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: walleyed] #7339907
08/26/21 11:03 AM
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It says (FHA) my check was issued August 11th. Hope it didn't end up like my new debit card....stolen out of the mail and activated by a criminal this last weekend.... and my bank account wiped out.

But on the good side of things, I averaged $7.22 on 117 sold beaver after commissions taken out. WOOOHOOO!!!!!!!!

Last edited by beaverpeeler; 08/26/21 11:04 AM.

My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: Turtledale] #7339912
08/26/21 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Turtledale
Originally Posted by Boco
I been riding snowmachines since 1965 and 3 and 4 wheelers almost as long.Used a snowmachine to get to school.They are vehicles here-we need them to get around for our lifestyle.Of course the portion used to earn income is calculated as capital cost.
It is very little cost related to trapping.hardly no gas and very little milage to run lines.I buy a new bike and snowmachine every few years just to have a write off,or i would be paying too much taxes here in sociable land.I got so much trapping stuff I had to build more sheds.
I calculate trapping expense when hunting fishing and cutting roads to new lakes etc since it is all related to living on the trapline.
I dont really consider that work I consider it living the good life.The kind of freedom some of you guys dont understand,obviously.

My life is not ruled by the almighty dollar,actually i use very little actual money compared to income to live my life.

All the extra money I dont use I give it away.But it just keeps rolling in for some reason.

LIKE

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Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: walleyed] #7339918
08/26/21 11:27 AM
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[quoteIt says (FHA) my check was issued August 11th. Hope it didn't end up like my new debit card....stolen out of the mail and activated by a criminal this last weekend.... and my bank account wiped out.][/quote]

Wouldn't the Willamette Valley be a paradise if you could wipe out all the criminals and dead-beats and their enablers...? Then beeverpeeler could truly live the blissful life with his post-castor $7 beav skins grin


"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground".
Genesis 1:26
Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: Boco] #7339927
08/26/21 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
I buy a new bike and snowmachine every few years just to have a write off,or i would be paying too much taxes here in sociable land.I got so much trapping stuff I had to build more sheds.
I calculate trapping expense when hunting fishing and cutting roads to new lakes etc since it is all related to living on the trapline.
I dont really consider that work I consider it living the good life.The kind of freedom some of you guys dont understand,obviously.

My life is not ruled by the almighty dollar,actually i use very little actual money compared to income to live my life.

All the extra money I dont use I give it away.But it just keeps rolling in for some reason.

The reason it keeps rolling in is because you have not been audited yet. Do you claim all your income for all the fur products you sell? To me it is clear that you are living the good life at the taxpayers expense. Do you claim the buildings you build to store your I’ll gotten gains too?

As for you Americans saying he is doing a great thing do you fleece the IRS too? America you are getting dumber by the hour. LLL


Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: walleyed] #7339944
08/26/21 12:23 PM
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I really am starting to feel for LL. He is so miserable over his PT coon that he needs to try to make everybody on here equally miserable.


My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: Turtledale] #7339955
08/26/21 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Turtledale
Originally Posted by Boco
I been riding snowmachines since 1965 and 3 and 4 wheelers almost as long.Used a snowmachine to get to school.They are vehicles here-we need them to get around for our lifestyle.Of course the portion used to earn income is calculated as capital cost.
It is very little cost related to trapping.hardly no gas and very little milage to run lines.I buy a new bike and snowmachine every few years just to have a write off,or i would be paying too much taxes here in sociable land.I got so much trapping stuff I had to build more sheds.
I calculate trapping expense when hunting fishing and cutting roads to new lakes etc since it is all related to living on the trapline.
I dont really consider that work I consider it living the good life.The kind of freedom some of you guys dont understand,obviously.

My life is not ruled by the almighty dollar,actually i use very little actual money compared to income to live my life.

All the extra money I dont use I give it away.But it just keeps rolling in for some reason.

LIKE


Pretty much says it all in this market.....if ya have money to give away, don't worry about the fur market.

Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: beaverpeeler] #7339969
08/26/21 12:57 PM
08/26/21 12:57 PM
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Pottawatamie co. IA
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I really am starting to feel for LL. He is so miserable over his PT coon that he needs to try to make everybody on here equally miserable.


I would expect that from you. You are part of the problem.


Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: walleyed] #7339971
08/26/21 12:59 PM
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How does pointing out someone fleecing his government make you miserable unless you are doing the same. Oh America what has happened?


Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: walleyed] #7339989
08/26/21 01:17 PM
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I for one am taking every possible legal deduction I can to offset the meager amount of income I make from trapping. Keeping as much of your earnings as is allowed is not fleecing your government.

Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: walleyed] #7340006
08/26/21 01:36 PM
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I'm not going to engage you LL in a pee(ing) contest. I wish you nothing but a pleasant fall and winter. How's the ice fishing in Iowa?

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Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: walleye101] #7340018
08/26/21 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by walleye101
I for one am taking every possible legal deduction I can to offset the meager amount of income I make from trapping. Keeping as much of your earnings as is allowed is not fleecing your government.


I totally agree with legal deductions as long as you are claiming all your income. If not you are a criminal. LLL


Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: walleyed] #7340047
08/26/21 02:22 PM
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Check arrived this A.M..

Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: walleyed] #7340151
08/26/21 04:36 PM
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Got mine today. Good thing it was not windy!

Bryce

Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: bblwi] #7340159
08/26/21 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by bblwi
Got mine today. Good thing it was not windy!

Bryce

With 4 pages of no sales listed it must have been double postage and with that weight how you had your back-brace on.

Best of luck all those that are going to set traps this coming season.

Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: Northof50] #7340167
08/26/21 04:56 PM
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No it was a small check. All my furs except a horrible coyote are now in the pipeline somewhere.

Bryce

Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: LLtrapper] #7340320
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Originally Posted by LLtrapper
How does pointing out someone fleecing his government make you miserable unless you are doing the same. Oh America what has happened?


You sure are thick between the ears-read it again-all legal deductions as per small buisness allowed.
The govt here knows every pelt that I (and every other trapper) sell at auction or sell otherwise(as per mandatory harvest report)-royalty(tax) is paid on every single pelt when sold at auction or sent to a tanner.
The only time royalty(or any other taxes) is exempted is when harvested and sold by FN,or when kept for personal use.

You really have no clue LLL.





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Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: Boco] #7340438
08/26/21 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Originally Posted by LLtrapper
How does pointing out someone fleecing his government make you miserable unless you are doing the same. Oh America what has happened?


You sure are thick between the ears-read it again-all legal deductions as per small buisness allowed.
The govt here knows every pelt that I (and every other trapper) sell at auction or sell otherwise(as per mandatory harvest report)-royalty(tax) is paid on every single pelt when sold at auction or sent to a tanner.
The only time royalty(or any other taxes) is exempted is when harvested and sold by FN,or when kept for personal use.

You really have no clue LLL.





You tan your own. Where are those taxes paid? Someday you will be audited I hope, and then you will not be giving your money away except to lawyers. LLL


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Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: walleyed] #7340492
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We are allowed to tan our own for use and sale and yes when our harvest reports are compared to submitted reports from furbuyers,or auctions,and an audit happens we have to account for any pelts not on the sales reports.This is done thru invoice copies to those pelts sold directly to the public.Only tanned fur can be sold to the public unless a member of the public has acquired a permit to posess a raw pelt,then a trapper can sell a raw skin to a member of the public.A permit to posess a pelt is issued no charge to a member of the public who wishes to buy a furbearer pelt from a trapper.The permit has the buyers and sellers info on it,and royalty is paid.
I deal with outfitters whose clients wish to have a furbearer's pelt and have sold raw wolves and lynx to american hunters thru the outfitter who obtains the permits to posess for his clients.

During the fur season the MNR will occasionally audit your fur as reported on hand (in your freezer or tanned for sale)to make sure what you have reported is correct.

The MNR also audits our registerd traplines once in a while for aihts compliance.

As a holder of 3 registerd traplines worth tens of thousands of dollars each in improvements,not to mention the yearly income potential from each,you would have to be a nut case to try to hide a few hundred dollars worth of fur sales and risk losing your trapping licences and traplines.

You really really have no clue do you,LOL.


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