Re: 20 Gauge 2 3/4" 3/4 oz Deer Season XP
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09/14/21 01:06 PM
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Too heavy for the 20 Ga platform in my opinion. I like the lighter slugs like the Remington copper solids at 275 grains or so. They seem to give much much more consistent patterns at longer distances. I would feel comfortable shooting my 20 ga slug gun to 150 yards.
The heavier slugs tend to lose more steam at longer distances and pattern inconsistently (in my experience). This is why I went with the 20 over the 12.
Also depends on the type of gun/barrel you are shooting, is it rifled? I can drive tacks with the Rem copper solids and my Savage 220
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Re: 20 Gauge 2 3/4" 3/4 oz Deer Season XP
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09/14/21 01:14 PM
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Awesome, that will be a sweet setup. With the way ammo is, I would buy them. Buy enough to get you through a season or two and dial your gun into them. I'm sure they will kill a deer, I'm not sure there's a hunk of metal flying 1600 fps that won't!
I'm just a freak about patterning things, but under 100 yards those will probably do just fine
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Re: 20 Gauge 2 3/4" 3/4 oz Deer Season XP
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09/14/21 01:49 PM
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I switched to a 350 legend. Legal in IA now.
Much cheaper ammo and easier on shoulder too.
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Re: 20 Gauge 2 3/4" 3/4 oz Deer Season XP
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09/14/21 02:17 PM
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they are 328 gr
the 260gr Winchester dual bonds are my go too they are labeled 1800fps , and they make a nice hole in both sides , it is a pistol bullet with an open hollowpoint
with availability what is is , I would buy a box drive strait to the range shoot a group and if the group looks good rush back and buy all I thought I needed for several seasons
this 2 box limit things is really hard with 5 round boxes of slugs you basically need 5 to know if they group well minimum 3 then 2 to confirm the sight changes and that leaves you 5 to hunt with it sure isn't much.
not sure why in the height of a shortage Winchester seems to have released several new ammunition's
I keep seeing 18 dollar a box for 10 rounds 12ga segmented rifled slugs 1600fps 1 ounce really you needed a slug to be more devastating at short range , why not keep pumping out the same old super X slugs that have worked for ever , marketing I suppose and cost these are marketed as home personal defense and are 10 rounds to the box for about the same price as a 15 round box of the regular slugs would have been.
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Re: 20 Gauge 2 3/4" 3/4 oz Deer Season XP
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09/14/21 03:20 PM
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Some of y'all sure make shooting a dang deer complicated, lol.
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Re: 20 Gauge 2 3/4" 3/4 oz Deer Season XP
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09/14/21 03:23 PM
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Some of y'all sure make shooting a dang deer complicated, lol. I'm a neck shooter, it can be completed with a shotgun at 150 yards
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Re: 20 Gauge 2 3/4" 3/4 oz Deer Season XP
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09/14/21 04:33 PM
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Some of y'all sure make shooting a dang deer complicated, lol. when you can just pull the 308 out and shoot them it basically could not get easier when you can't use a rifle and you have to play shotgun games you can accept a max range of 50-75 yards with foster slugs or you can get into rifled barrels and sabot slugs part of the problem is the ammo manufactures keep changing sabot slug designs like the dual bonds I use , have been discontinued , luckily I have 3-4 more years worth saved up even though WI went rifle state wide each township may introduce a shotgun only ordinance , that is slugs only no buck shot if you can alwasy get the deer inside 50 yards I would just use foster slugs cheap and easy , but when you want to get that one hold up at 85 yards that is when the sabots shine , rifle like accuracy and 45-70 like knock down. heck if the township would even go strait wall I would have a 45-70 ready to go it is a great hunting location on private ground I don't want to give up.
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Re: 20 Gauge 2 3/4" 3/4 oz Deer Season XP
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09/14/21 04:51 PM
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I've never shot a deer with a rifle. My shotgun's barrel isn't rifled and I just buy whatever $5 box of slugs Walmart has on sale. But I also don't use a scope. Would need to waste more ammo sighting it in every year if I did.
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Re: 20 Gauge 2 3/4" 3/4 oz Deer Season XP
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09/14/21 05:12 PM
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I an also at 30 years and we also push them out at Warp 3 and 98% of the time plane old fosters from a smooth barrel are good at 25 yards almost anything works
man is it frustrating shooting at 130 yards would be a stupid easy rifle shot and the doe is standing there looking right at you and you are all over around it then it runs off. that is where the sabots pay one shot and they drop
if something is deadly to 300 yards I sure as heck want to be able to put it on target at least half that distance
I want to good group at 90 yards with my 12 ga and a good group at 60 with the 20ga they just don't have the weight to stabilize to 100
when your hunting rifle country handicapped with a smooth bore , your just not going to make those 100yard + shots i have a couple 12ga that if it isn't windy do well at 100 yards with Winchester Super X foster slugs.
these sabots the good ones any way make a rifled barrel shotgun group an honest 3 inches at 100 yards some better than that it's like a 45-70 legal in a shotgun zone.
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Re: 20 Gauge 2 3/4" 3/4 oz Deer Season XP
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09/14/21 05:29 PM
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Hornady SST best out there if you can find them Very accurate in my gun,,,, but they did not preform well on deer. Only poked a small hole straight through, no expansion. You could cover the holes on both sides with your pinky finger. Two shots through the ribs at 50 yards, deer never even stumbled. I thought I missed until checked and saw a little blood in the snow for about 30 yards before it started pouring out. Yes it killed the deer but if it hadn't been for snow cover I may have missed those first few drops. This was several years ago, and I heard the same report of poor results that I had back then. They may have changed them by now, must have if people are recommending them. I switched to a 350 legend. Legal in IA now.
Much cheaper ammo and easier on shoulder too. I had one in an AR platform. It was kinda fussy on cycling. Sent it in several times finally got it going but never fully trusted it, so I sold it. I don't care for bolt guns for deer, can't work them or pumps well with my bad shoulders. The .44 mag Henry works good too but wanted a little change.
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Re: 20 Gauge 2 3/4" 3/4 oz Deer Season XP
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09/14/21 05:43 PM
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Hornady SST best out there if you can find them Very accurate in my gun,,,, but they did not preform well on deer. Only poked a small hole straight through, no expansion. You could cover the holes on both sides with your pinky finger. Two shots through the ribs at 50 yards, deer never even stumbled. I thought I missed until checked and saw a little blood in the snow for about 30 yards before it started pouring out. Yes it killed the deer but if it hadn't been for snow cover I may have missed those first few drops. This was several years ago, and I heard the same report of poor results that I had back then. They may have changed them by now, must have if people are recommending them. I switched to a 350 legend. Legal in IA now.
Much cheaper ammo and easier on shoulder too. I had one in an AR platform. It was kinda fussy on cycling. Sent it in several times finally got it going but never fully trusted it, so I sold it. I don't care for bolt guns for deer, can't work them or pumps well with my bad shoulders. The .44 mag Henry works good too but wanted a little change. Understood. I have a 350 leg in CVA single shot. Simple, easy and a real shooter!
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Re: 20 Gauge 2 3/4" 3/4 oz Deer Season XP
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09/14/21 05:57 PM
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I've never shot a deer with a rifle. My shotgun's barrel isn't rifled and I just buy whatever $5 box of slugs Walmart has on sale. But I also don't use a scope. Would need to waste more ammo sighting it in every year if I did. I used to be a cheapskate too. Can't see paying more for venison than beef.
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