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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: Blaine County] #7359273
09/19/21 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Opinions are a dime a dozen, but my opinion is that people who avoid paying taxes to the federal government are NOT parasites.

I'm trying to think how I benefit in any way from Federal taxes. The only thing I can come up with is the rare occasions that I use an Interstate highway. And the military of course. The military is the one thing I don't mind my tax dollars going to though. If the federal gov't would be doing what they SHOULD be doing which is basically worrying about defense of our country and nothing else, I wouldn't mind paying taxes.



No offense but one big way you benefit are your husband's military disability payments. Those are funded by federal tax dollars.

I'll assume those go into your household income category.


Yep you're right but as I said the Military, including care of veterans, is in my opinion, the ONLY thing the federal government should be spending tax money on.

Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7359304
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I work outside, solo home/garden business, packing up at the end of the day homeowner comes out and asks me "aren't you tired'? One day the temp was around 35, I was boxing in some posts on the front porch and homeowner comes out and tells me to go home because it is too cold to work outside....doing a landscape job on a hot day I am dripping wet with sweat and have a question so I ring the bell, homeowner comes out and says he cannot walk around the side of the house because it is too hot....etc...

not only do many not work but many people have never actually done any hard work for ten minutes...that's why 50% of the USA are fat slobs....


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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: coonman220] #7359319
09/19/21 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by coonman220
Originally Posted by stinkypete
Biden is working on having every financial institution report every account to the IRS that has 600.00 or more. So everyone that is so worried you will be relieved

I read that, I can't see that pass an become law, that ridiculous an stupid an accomplish nothing, I hate binden, worse thing happen , was hope trump stay in office


Right on, Dave!

Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7359322
09/19/21 02:17 PM
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1/3 of American men are walking alone with a mask on or driving with a mask on alone or even riding a bicycle alone and yes a mask on. 1/3 of the men in America have drank the cool aid of this administration and the mediaís for are scared to death by their rhetorical!


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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: Blaine County] #7359325
09/19/21 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Originally Posted by Blaine County


Are you going to praise the crack dealer who doesn't report and pay taxes on his profits?


lol

You really are an idiot. Equating a criminal activity to someone working their (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) off legally.

The infrastructure that I use is paid for by the fees I have to pay to participate, or so I was told that.

As an example, tolls on toll roads are there to pay for the maintenance. That the government has put a booger on it isnít the users issue.


Originally Posted by Blaine County
A tax cheat and a crack dealing tax cheat are both criminals. In one instance, you may not approve of the off the books income. If the truck driving tax cheat is praised for breaking the law, why not praise the crack dealing tax cheat?

I'll do this step by step for you.

PS. I hate taxes.




Here Iíll go slow for you.

A guy robs a bank and wants to keep the money he stole is not the same as a guy that wants to keep the money he EARNED.

Being a democrat sympathizer I see you believe we owe the government something for being born here. I donít.

Your turn, go.

Last edited by HobbieTrapper; 09/19/21 02:28 PM.

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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7359339
09/19/21 03:03 PM
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Does a lawyer get paid by book time like a mechanic?

Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: Blaine County] #7359344
09/19/21 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
I donít consider anyone that keeps money from someone who doesnít know how to spend it wisely a parasite. I wish more Americans would do it.

People who take their hand off the wagon without climbing on the wagon should be praised not demonized as well.


Are you going to praise the crack dealer who doesn't report and pay taxes on his profits?


Praise? No. But if he lives solely off the proceeds of his business then what infrastructure has he utilized that he didn't have a hand in paying for? He's still paying for roads when he buys gas so he can roll down the street in his 6-4.

Crack kills. But so does tobacco, and they see it as legitimate enough to tax the snot out of it.

Mike


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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7359345
09/19/21 03:26 PM
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And alcohol. And lawyers make a good living suing drinkers and automobile drivers. And thank the lawyers for getting folks on disability!.


I know I'm paranoid......but am I paranoid ENOUGH???
Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7359346
09/19/21 03:29 PM
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Our country was started by men sick of to much tax


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7359349
09/19/21 03:33 PM
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I feel great paying taxes I want to pay more until I cannot afford to live. LOL Look back at 84 billion dollars of equipment left behind and pallets of cash given to Terrorists then trillions of dollars wasted on a 20 year war plus money given to countries that hate us. Now who would not be willing to give just a little more. If you donít pay they make up new taxes to take more from you so all they want is more!


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7359357
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Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7359360
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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: danny clifton] #7359384
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Having worked closely with business owners for 40 years doing financial planning and tax prep, I found those that spent a lot of time trying to avoid paying taxes, typically wound up in more financial difficulty than those that managed their taxable income by being far better financial planners.

Bryce

Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7359393
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I personally know two guys that inherited well, then decided they were going to fight the Gubmint on inheritance tax. They both lost.
Remember back when the farmers all drove their tractors to D.C to protest grain prices? One of them ran over some police motorcyces with his tractor. He was one of them that didn't beat the Gubmint inheritance tax.


I know I'm paranoid......but am I paranoid ENOUGH???
Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7359409
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper



Here Iíll go slow for you.

A guy robs a bank and wants to keep the money he stole is not the same as a guy that wants to keep the money he EARNED.

Being a democrat sympathizer I see you believe we owe the government something for being born here. I donít.

Your turn, go.



The ol' TMan strategy of calling someone a democrat when they have nothing better to say. I actually thought you were a little smarter than that.

Remember, you said:

I donít consider anyone that keeps money from someone who doesnít know how to spend it wisely a parasite. I wish more Americans would do it.

People who take their hand off the wagon without climbing on the wagon should be praised not demonized as well.


You are caught up on the wrong part. Let's use you and stick with the crack dealer. You earn $25 and all of the cake you can eat playing cover songs at some kid's birthday party. A crack dealer earns $1000 selling crack. Both of you have reportable and taxable income. Yes, the crack dealer committed a crime in earning his money. However, if you and the crack dealer fail to report your incomes and pay taxes on it (if owed) both of you have committed exactly the same federal crime. So, praise yourself and him too. From a taxation standpoint, you are the same people.

Nobody hates paying taxes more than me. Nobody hates wasteful spending more than me--and most of it is. I am however never going to condone someone not pulling their weight just because they don't want to--especially when the rest of us are paying their way.




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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7359412
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I'm a Johnny Cash fan, but that's not one of his best songs.

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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: yotetrapper30] #7359418
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Do you consider anyone who's not working a 9-5 job a parasite? Because if you read that article you would have seen many reasons for people not being counted on the unemployment roles and not all of them were because the people weren't working. If someone saves all their life and retires at 40, is that person a parasite? Are people who make a living fishing or trapping a parasite? What about ones who make enough to live playing the stock market? The shade tree mechanic that only works with cash? Because those were all listed as reasons for people not working in that article. Now you can make the argument that some of those people are tax cheats and you would be right... but does that make them a parasite? Not in my mind! I say more power to them!

Now if you're talking about the people that just sitting on welfare (which, interestingly, your article never even mentioned) then I would agree with you!



Tax cheats and welfare cheats are cheats.

Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7359420
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how about some beatles James? I dont think they liked what happened to their money either

Quote
One, two, three, four
One, two (one, two, three, four)
Let me tell you how it will be
There's one for you, nineteen for me
'Cause I'm the taxman
Yeah, I'm the taxman
Should five percent appear too small
Be thankful I don't take it all
'Cause I'm the taxman
Yeah, I'm the taxman
I'll tax the street
(If you try to sit, sit) I'll tax your seat
(If you get too cold, cold) I'll tax the heat
(If you take a walk, walk) I'll tax your feet
(Taxman)
'Cause I'm the taxman
Yeah, I'm the taxman
Don't ask me what I want it for
(Ah, ah, Mr. Wilson)
If you don't want to pay some more
(Ah, ah, Mr. Heath)
'Cause I'm the taxman
Yeah, I'm the taxman
Now my advice for those who die (taxman)
Declare the pennies on your eyes (taxman)
'Cause I'm the taxman
Yeah, I'm the taxman
And you're working for no one but me (taxman)


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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7359425
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I'm a so-so Beatles fan, but that's not one of their best songs either.

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I got a soft spot for blues. Last song on this thread i will post. Just remember none of this is really new. Time to decide whats to be done




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