Re: Photo Phriday 18
[Re: Gulo]
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10/16/21 09:12 AM
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Thanks Range. It appears you did a lot better than I. Once we get good snow, I'll see what the sign looks like, and perhaps give it another try. Did you get long-tails or short-tails? And yes, I did well on deer mice also.
Jack
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Re: Photo Phriday 18
[Re: Gulo]
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10/16/21 01:52 PM
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You want a set that will let the mice and shrews work the bait without buggering up the set for the weasel that goes in after the bait/mice. A marten box set with the opening down with a waxed 120,and an L shaped trigger,and a fist sized chunk of beaver for bait will catch every weasel that visits the set. It also produces a very high percentage of double strikes on marten,as they trigger the trap with a front foot.Weasels trigger the trap when they climb on the trigger wire to acess the hanging bait.
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Re: Photo Phriday 18
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10/16/21 04:53 PM
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Jack, do you catch long or short tail when you catch them? I can not remember catching many long tails in a box. Maybe they don't like them. I know I have them I have caught them in other sets and my old dog would catch one once in a while. He had on in the frame of the pick up once. I thought it was neat until he grabbed the brake line and started trying to pull it out of the way. That was when I decided I had to get the dog out from under the PU and kill the weasel. I caught a long tail in a 220 on a badger hole once and another in a 220 in a trail set. The trail set one had a thirteen stripped ground squirrel in its mouth cross wise and I would bet that was what set off the 220.
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Re: Photo Phriday 18
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10/16/21 05:46 PM
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Jack, do you catch long or short tail when you catch them? I can not remember catching many long tails in a box. Maybe they don't like them. I know I have them I have caught them in other sets and my old dog would catch one once in a while. Mark - Here in Idaho where I am, both the long-tails and the short-tails are here. The incidentals I catch in marten and mink boxes are invariably long-tails. The single catch in the weasel box was a male short-tail. The short-tails are generally at higher altitudes than the long-tails, but they do overlap. In Alaska, many incidentals in marten sets, always short-tails. Alaska has no long-tails, but the short-tails up there are nearly as big as the long-tails down here. Alaska also had least weasels, but I only caught them in museum special mouse traps. One of the strangest catches I've ever had was back in the 70s, catching a long-tailed weasel in a neck snare set for bobcats. Thing would have had to jump 10-11" up from the ground to reach the bottom of the snare. Choked him down though. I could never figure out how he caught himself.
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Re: Photo Phriday 18
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10/16/21 07:05 PM
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Here in Pa I used to set for them a lot. And I also set trail cameras for them. On the trial cameras I got a lot of long tails to see. In the box I got the short tails only and in an 1 1/2 or #2 coil just outside the box got a few long tails. I even picked up several long tails that were road kills but never a short tail. I am not sure if I ever saw a lest weasel or even know how to ID one. Now dont get me wrong as I only caught less than 75 all together. The trap outside the box was really for mink, coon and fox that liked to play with my boxes, the few bears just destroyed everything......jk
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Re: Photo Phriday 18
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10/16/21 10:39 PM
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Jack, I thought I did good catching a long tail in a 220 and here you snared one. I am sure that not everyone can say that. I never tried to snare a weasel. Maybe I will try this winter. I was thinking maybe the long tails didn't like boxes was why I ask what type you had. We have least here too. I see one once in a while and even had one in the house. We had a cat that would catch a couple least a year.
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Re: Photo Phriday 18
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10/18/21 11:02 AM
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Jack, do you catch long or short tail when you catch them? I can not remember catching many long tails in a box. Maybe they don't like them. I know I have them I have caught them in other sets and my old dog would catch one once in a while. Mark - I thought about it all night. Don't know why it never dawned on me, but I think there's something to what you're suggesting. Perhaps it is indeed a difference between the long-tailed and the short-tailed. As we get decent snow cover this year, I'll plan on getting out boxes again. Unfortunately, where I usually see the majority of the short-tail spoor, I can't access very long into the winter because of the snow. In year's past, you're right, I'm setting mostly on long-tailed tracks. But I'm still confused as to why they seem to like my 120 boxes (for mink and marten), but won't go into a smaller box (the weasel boxes), even with the front removed. I'll keep playing with it, I hope. Jack
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Re: Photo Phriday 18
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10/18/21 11:58 AM
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Jack a friend in New Mexico caught a raven in a snare set for bobcat. Raven was dead when snare checked. Never say never with wild animals
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