Re: Cottonwood?
[Re: Dennis W]
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10/21/21 09:09 PM
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If someone is gonna bring firewood to my house I'll take whatever they bring. You don't want him to pass on you next time when the wood is good. This right here...if you don't care for it, pile it up and cook some wieners with your kids!
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Re: Cottonwood?
[Re: Providence Farm]
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if they drop it off burn it
it would make good outdoor camp fire wood
most of the time people want a camp fire that lasts and hour or so , not all night coals
if they are bringing your 3 foot in diameter logs , noodle them down to pieces you can lift
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Re: Cottonwood?
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it has half the heat of oak for a cord
Yet it has almost exactly the same BTU per dry pound as red oak, if my math is right.
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Re: Cottonwood?
[Re: Providence Farm]
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I once read: Pound for pound perfectly dry wood all burns the same.
Yeah, a pound of cottonwood will be bigger than a pound of lots of other stuff, but, pound for pound.
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Re: Cottonwood?
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Buy your dry wood by the ton and you'll never get cheated, buy it by the cord and that guy can stack 1/2 of it air. Split wood stacks to a greater volume than solid wood doesn't it, lots more air spaces? I learned that when I was very young I got close to half a load more on a load bringing it home round instead of splitting it in the woods between less air space and being able to stack it much higher round.
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Re: Cottonwood?
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10/21/21 11:38 PM
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Try smoking fish with punky dry cottonwood and you'll be pleasantly surprised. If you want to use it for firewood, split it and let it dry for at least a year. Mill some of it up for the boards that go around the top of dump truck dump boxes and you'll have a steady stream of return customers. It doesn't split up and bust like other lumber, it just sort of erodes away.
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Re: Cottonwood?
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10/21/21 11:52 PM
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Cottonwood makes very good sheeting for barns. A friend of mine, who has a sawmill, sheets all of his barns with cottonwood. The advantage of cottonwood is that lots of tall wide trees are available. Once the wood is dry, it's very light weight and easy to hold in place while its being nailed. As long as you nail through the cottonwood, into a harder wood, it will stay in place. Cottonwood does not hold a nail well on its own.
Cottonwood makes good butts for thrown weapons such as spears, knives and axes. Almost all the thrown weapons events I have gone to use cottonwood. Weapons stick well and don't bounce back. Wet cottonwood can take a lot of abuse and the cuts close well when you pull the weapons out. Large rounds of cottonwood are typically free to cheap. If your sons like throwing weapons, you should mount a cottonwood butt for them,, about 4 feet high.
Keith Keith Are you talking outside sheeting? Or does it need siding over it? I figured it would rot in the weather, I've used it inside, if it dries you bout have to pre drill to drive a nail in it. My friend James uses cottonwood as inside sheeting. Cottonwoods are the most common really big trees in our area and they have little commercial value to loggers. We both have some truly massive cottonwoods on our farms. It is kind of pretty as sheeting. It's very pale, close to white and sometimes gets some faint lines reminiscent of tiger maple. Keith
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Re: Cottonwood?
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Try smoking fish with punky dry cottonwood and you'll be pleasantly surprised. The folks here use cottonwood for dry smoking salmon. Mild flavor, not harsh like alder can be. I once tried it for smoked moose meat. It reminded me of dryfish too much.
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Re: Cottonwood?
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I dont know what cottonwood is.I burn poplar and bam.Poplar burns good in the cabin when mixed with dry spruce in the fall. Bam makes a quick hot fire in the skinning shed.Good to warm up the work area without cooking you out if your skinning shed is insulated.
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Re: Cottonwood?
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I dont know what cottonwood is.I burn poplar and bam.Poplar burns good in the cabin when mixed with dry spruce in the fall. Bam makes a quick hot fire in the skinning shed.Good to warm up the work area without cooking you out if your skinning shed is insulated. Bam is probably balsam poplar. Cottonwood has much wider leaves. Both can be used to make Balm of Gilead. Cottonwood gets its name from the huge amount of white, cotton like fluff it produces to carry its tiny seeds. The seeds can travel really far on the wind. There's some cottonwoods across the state highway from me, probably seventy yards from where I garden and I still get hundreds of cottonwood trees in my garden every year. Cottonwood grows very fast, tall and straight in wet areas. Some of the cottonwood trees in my low area are close to 5' in diameter. I have seen some that are well over 6' in diameter. Keith
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Re: Cottonwood?
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Buy your dry wood by the ton and you'll never get cheated, buy it by the cord and that guy can stack 1/2 of it air. Split wood stacks to a greater volume than solid wood doesn't it, lots more air spaces? Cross stacking is a lot of work, to cheat a customer. Just about any other configuration actually has a defined definition of volume a legal cord of 128 cu Ranging from 110 cu ft cut, not split, and neatly stacked to 175 cu ft "tossed".
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Re: Cottonwood?
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I've used it for stretchers. Takes push pins well. Early explorers preferred cottonwood and aspen over conifers for campfires since it doesn't pop and shoot sparks and tastes better than conifer smoke on cooked food. Beaver thrive on it.
Cottonwood (Poplar)
The cottonwood—also known as the poplar—is a tall tree with a spreading crown, named for its cotton-like seeds. The diverse poplar family includes the quaking aspen, which boasts the widest range of any North American tree, and the Plains cottonwood, which was the only tree many early settlers met as they forged westward through America's prairies. Today as in centuries past, the cottonwood offers welcome shade, as its powerful trunk divides into thick branches and opens into a spreading crown. Many cottonwoods grow from 70 to 100 feet tall, and the tree’s quick growth rate and adaptability to many soils and climates have made it an age-old friend to the American people.
The Cottonwood’s Place in History
Few sights were more welcome to America’s early pioneers than the cottonwood. As they pushed westward with their wagons, these brave men and women found food for their livestock in the tree's leaves, as well as shade for themselves and timber for their dwellings. The beauty of the cottonwood leaves as they turned in the wind may also have revived memories of eastern forests, and sustained many a flagging spirit. On the more practical side, cottonwood trunks provided dugout canoes, and the tree’s bark was used to produce both forage for horses and a bitter medicinal tea. And in regions with few trees, the very noticeable cottonwoods often served as gathering places and trail markers, and as sacred objects for several Plains tribes. Today, cottonwood is most commonly used in making plywood, matches, crates, boxes, and paper pulp.
Some Common Species
Quaking aspen (Populus tremuloides) is a slender, graceful tree, as attractive for its rounded mature crown and delicate branches as for its white bark and shimmering leaves. The “silver dollar” leaves, hanging from long, flexible leafstalks, turn in even the slightest breeze, reflecting light from their lustrous upper surface. This medium-sized tree, usually from 40 to 50 feet tall with a 20 to 30-foot spread, is found naturally in Alaska and lower California as well as from the New England states southward to Pennsylvania and westward to Missouri. It is valued for pulp production and for its role as one of the first trees to appear in areas that have been struck by fire and other natural disasters. But for many, the quaking aspen is just as valuable for its beauty, with its rustling leaves and striking white bark, growing along the sunny edges of America’s meadows and forests. (Grows in hardiness zones 1 to 7.)
The Plains cottonwood (Populus sargentii) has long been prized in the Great Plains states, where it was often the earliest and tallest tree to grow at the time of Western settlement. This attractive tree, which grows from 50 to 75 feet tall, is found throughout the Great Plains in locations with moist, low ground. It continues to be a source of shelter and shade across the region, building upon its legendary status as a friend to the early pioneers. (Grows in hardiness zones 3 to 9.)
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