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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7387865
10/25/21 03:48 PM
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Grant Frost from Wyoming fish and game just called me and took the tag info. Said he's looking into the situation and will get back with me..

He wants me to see about getting the skull.


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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7387924
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Buskirk just got back to me and says not the study he was thinking about as that was 25 years ago and not about 12 years ago as he originally guessed. So way beyond what a marten would live. The mystery deepens.

Hopefully Colorado is being checked where so close to there.

Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7388073
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Ok looks like some marten recently captured near Steam Boat Springs which is in nearby Colorado. And Cathryn you already mentioned Steam Boat Springs. That would be by Colorado Fish and Wildlife permit then. Getting closer lol.

Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: waggler] #7388158
10/25/21 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by waggler
Originally Posted by Kelly
That is really close to where I trapped Marten in the 1970ís in Colorado. There were lots of them there and in not your typical habitat, too.

How so?


I caught them at much lower elevation than previously thought was needed.


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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7388224
10/25/21 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by cathryn
Originally Posted by Kelly
That is really close to where I trapped Marten in the 1970ís in Colorado. There were lots of them there and in not your typical habitat, too.



Hes trapped Wyoming for 32 yrs straight
He knows what typical marten habitat is?

He has harvested hundreds of marten.

How many years did you trap Wyoming?


Cathryn, you misunderstood my statement above and was not in the least critical.

I too trapped within 1/4 mile of the Wyoming border, west of the continental divide, near Damfino Creek and points south and west all the way down to Steamboat Lake/Clark, Colorado. This was in the 1970ís when I lived in Colorado. Caught a lot of marten up there and there were a lot more that I never got close to. Also found there were many marten at lower altitudes that would not be your typical habitat.

I can see there could be a lot of marten now along the Wy/Co border just west of the continental divide because it is such a remote area. When I trapped there never saw another trapper. Plus Colorado effectively doesnít have many marten harvested with only cages these days so would expect there to be quite the dispersal north from that area.

Hope you solve your mystery.


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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7388250
10/25/21 10:52 PM
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TMI. Now the place will be crawling with marten trappers.


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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7388252
10/25/21 10:55 PM
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^^^^^
Not to likely; not for $20 marten.


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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7388262
10/25/21 11:09 PM
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Nobody traps for money now. It's all for adventure. I lost several hundred dollars trapping muskrats a few years ago. 30 miles each way. Sure was an experience and caught 180 mushrats. Some things you just can't put a price on.

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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7388322
10/26/21 05:35 AM
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marten are like coons. go right into a cage trap


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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7388452
10/26/21 09:40 AM
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Its crazy but he caught a 2nd tagged marten yesterday. Same raha.... 087 in the left ear and 155 in thw right. Both were females. He froze this carcass whole.

He caught it 7.2 miles from where he caught the first one..on the other side of the mountain.

He talked I a biologist named Lee yesterday from the Laramie office
He has no idea but is intrigued and is going to see what he can fins out.

What's crazy is that hea trapped thia area for 15 yrs and has never caught a tagged marten..

He haa caught roughly 300 marten in that area over the 15 yrs.

Could fire have pushed them into that area?

On a side note half of the Showys burnt up
Nothing but black. It has impacted his beaver numbers dramatically


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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7388454
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Interesting. Following!


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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7388457
10/26/21 09:46 AM
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When was that fire Cathryn ?


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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7388473
10/26/21 10:16 AM
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Last year there was several big fires within 50 miles of Hog Park. Cameron peak, Mullen, and Middle Fork fires. The one closest to Steamboat was only 20,000 acres though.


Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7388474
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Very obvious a study going on somewhere not far to catch a second. Gotta be the Colorado Steam Boat Springs lead.

Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7388534
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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7388541
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Burrito study was 25 yrs ago and the didn't use ear tags according to Grant frost. Of Wyoming she
Just talked to him


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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7388647
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Marten season is open in Wy.? Iím surprised. Nov 1 in most of Alaska. Did he skin the first? You can tell the age approximately from the muscles on top of the head. Juvey, young adult, or mature adult.

Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7388651
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Per Martentrapper's post above.

https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/6357476/guide-to-age-american-marten#Post6357476

Since they are both females it might be advantageous to remove the uterus for determination of previous pregnancies


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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: martentrapper] #7388655
10/26/21 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by martentrapper
Marten season is open in Wy.? Iím surprised. Nov 1 in most of Alaska. Did he skin the first? You can tell the age approximately from the muscles on top of the head. Juvey, young adult, or mature adult.

Opens Oct 1 where he traps and. Dec 1 in the snowys


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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7388688
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The Warden that had that area many years ago was a goose hunting buddy with my Dad. He said the marten season was set to begin after the big game seasons had concluded thus the December 1st opening. I trapped the Snowy's for two winters and took Marten. Not a bunch but enough to make a Missouri trapper happy. At one time I had maps of the areas where marten research projects had been conducted in that area. I still may have them if I dig through some stuff in the basement. At any rate, that was over 20 years ago and I don't imagine any wild marten lives that long. Maybe 15 if memory serves. At one time all the harvested marten from that area had to be tagged. That was discontinued about the time that I trapped there.
Keep us posted.

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