Contest for wise wolfers(need help)
#7418825
11/30/21 08:53 PM
11/30/21 08:53 PM
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Yes sir
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So.... everything I'm setting in the ground within 3/4 of a mile of my house is getting dug up again. Started 2 years ago and I just ignored it and moved on. Didn't trap last year for several reasons. Have caught 5 around my house so far but in the last 4 days I've had 4 different sets partly uncovered. With coyotes not having much value my goal rest of season is to catch the criminal and get a little self respect back. Looking for GOOD ideas how to put this sucker in an arm bar and get it to tap out. The person who gives me the set that takes it will receive 16 ounce of the best coyote bait you ever tried  . Got a couple blind sets out but only trails are cattle trails and they are like concrete right now (took me an hour to put 4 in this morning and I was sweating and wore out afterwards) and the hard trails don't blend back in very good so I'm not super confident in them. Tomorrow morning going to put in some natural pee posts with fresh urine and two traps. Might put a few snares out at some point but it's pretty open country and we can't snare along fences besides roads. If you say it's a bedding problem or coons your disqualified. It might have been a bedding issue 2 years ago but we are beyond that now. Dirt holes disqualify you also as that's my go to set 90% of the time. Saw were it dug at all the loose piles of dirt at a remake that I had caught a coon at. Been doing great for the few traps I have out with the exception of lately and this one coyote. Haven't pinched any coyotes that got away this year either. Enlighten me wise ones.
Last edited by Yes sir; 12/08/21 08:38 AM.
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Re: Contest for wise wolfers
[Re: Yes sir]
#7418874
11/30/21 09:28 PM
11/30/21 09:28 PM
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Yukon John
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I LOVE the compass set, but others on here poo poo it. Had my first 1 night catch last weekend on it. Best of luck!
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Re: Contest for wise wolfers
[Re: clintp1971]
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11/30/21 09:31 PM
11/30/21 09:31 PM
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Yukon John
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Try making a regular set and then setting a trap or two back from the regular set. Only cover with dry lawn clippings, no dirt or peat moss. Don’t just put clippings over the trap beds but cover a bigger area. I am not a wise wolfer , by the way. Lol, just came back to edit my comment, touche to you!
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Re: Contest for wise wolfers
[Re: Yes sir]
#7418899
11/30/21 09:41 PM
11/30/21 09:41 PM
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20scout
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Got one doing the same to me on a walk through. Keeps uncovering my trap and pulling off my pan cover. Changed out my trap from an MB650 to an MB550 just in case it was a contaminated trap or my pan tension too high. 90% of my sets are step downs but starting to use more walk throughs. I've caught them on compass sets but have also lost them due to too many toe catches. I would suggest a blind set close by, but if your ground is as hard as Chinese algebra like ours then maybe hang a few snares. Wish I could be more help.
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Re: Contest for wise wolfers
[Re: Yes sir]
#7418962
11/30/21 10:17 PM
11/30/21 10:17 PM
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MattDoyle
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Assuming that the coyote isn’t reacting to a poorly bedded trap or contaminated trap, then he has to be reacting to either the difference in texture or smell of the freshly dug dirt, or both. A hay mound set should solve it either way. He’s already in your set, as soon as he’s on hay and the trap will only be bedded with hay, so there’s nothing to dig up. Please use two traps, I’m really looking forward to trying your bait! Matt
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Re: Contest for wise wolfers
[Re: MattDoyle]
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11/30/21 10:31 PM
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Yes sir
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Assuming that the coyote isn’t reacting to a poorly bedded trap or contaminated trap, then he has to be reacting to either the difference in texture or smell of the freshly dug dirt, or both. A hay mound set should solve it either way. He’s already in your set, as soon as he’s on hay and the trap will only be bedded with hay, so there’s nothing to dig up. Please use two traps, I’m really looking forward to trying your bait! Matt I'll give it a go. Always kind of seemed like a gimmick set to me but if it works for this coyote that's all I need. FYI it's unfortunately not my bait but a friend of mines, but I'm doing the marketing for him because he's way too humble. Lol But I guess it's really not marketing because he doesn't sell it....
Last edited by Yes sir; 11/30/21 10:40 PM.
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Re: Contest for wise wolfers
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11/30/21 10:34 PM
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Yukon John
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I also like the 2 traps method...I'd almost bed one FIRM (I know) somewhere in the immediate surrounding area, and hope for the best. I've got a similar situation going, and am having fun with the back and forth!
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Re: Contest for wise wolfers
[Re: Yukon John]
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11/30/21 10:38 PM
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Yes sir
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I also like the 2 traps method...I'd almost bed one FIRM (I know) somewhere in the immediate surrounding area, and hope for the best. I've got a similar situation going, and am having fun with the back and forth! I will only think it was fun AFTER I catch it. Until then it's kind of personal. Lol
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Re: Contest for wise wolfers
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12/01/21 12:24 AM
12/01/21 12:24 AM
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Allan Minear
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Set more snares with kill springs and fewer traps 1/16 " 1x 19 or even 7x7 snares will do the trick in all honesty it doesn't take much narrowing down the trail to catch coyotes trust me . Now I'm going to go pop some popcorn and watch for all the nay sayer's trying to convince you my suggestion wont work ha ha
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Re: Contest for wise wolfers
[Re: MattDoyle]
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12/01/21 02:38 AM
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Scott__aR
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Assuming that the coyote isn’t reacting to a poorly bedded trap or contaminated trap, then he has to be reacting to either the difference in texture or smell of the freshly dug dirt, or both. A hay mound set should solve it either way. He’s already in your set, as soon as he’s on hay and the trap will only be bedded with hay, so there’s nothing to dig up. Please use two traps, I’m really looking forward to trying your bait! Matt Yes, I agree with Matt. I use straw for my hay sets just what's available. And I place them on a natural or made up dirt mound ... I think it gives the dog a standout focus point.
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Re: Contest for wise wolfers
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#7419117
12/01/21 05:24 AM
12/01/21 05:24 AM
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Dropping set with , no backing. right under its nose. Lured with red fox gland. Sometimes ya gotta get them angry to divert their attention from the trap.
Common sense catches alot of fur.. Pay homage to all you harvest..
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Re: Contest for wise wolfers
[Re: Boone Liane]
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12/01/21 08:31 AM
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X2 Not a very smart yote. He has to win every time, you only have to win once. Is it digging repeatedly at the same sets? Even after you’ve fixed them?
If so, pretty simple solution to kill it, as that’s not a smart coyote. Smart coyotes don’t dig more than once, they don’t come anywhere near it.
Next time it digs one, leave everything as is and simply bed another one (or two) extremely well bedded and blended traps where you see he dug from (or think he did if no tracks). Usually the downwind side.
Leave the original trap and pan cover in the bed mostly exposed. He knows it’s there and it gives him something to fixate on.
I’ve left just the pan cover in the original bed and dragged the original trap out to the under foot position too.
I'm itchin' to see a coyote twitchin'.
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Re: Contest for wise wolfers
[Re: trappergbus]
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12/01/21 08:51 AM
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Yes sir
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Boone I didn't see that he had dug until I pulled them this year but from my experience 2 yrs ago he'll come right back and uncover them if I fix set. I'll sure try your solution if he uncovers any new sets. Going to break out some of your lure and bait to try on him, got a little left still.Thanks. Dropping set with , no backing. right under its nose. Lured with red fox gland. Sometimes ya gotta get them angry to divert their attention from the trap. Gary do you apply the fox gland lure right to droppings. I picked up a fresh one on road this morning in front of house so I'll be making ur set tomorrow morning. Yoteguts Let's just call him smart for my self-esteem LOL but I get ur point
Last edited by Yes sir; 12/01/21 09:03 AM.
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Re: Contest for wise wolfers
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12/01/21 11:48 AM
12/01/21 11:48 AM
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Swamp Wolf
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Well blended flat set/scent post. Use clump of grass or something natural as scent holder.
Here is the winning slam dunk.....use two traps....front and back side....or one trap up close and other trap further out front and offset.
Last edited by Swamp Wolf; 12/01/21 11:49 AM.
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