Re: Remakes
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12/21/21 11:55 AM
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Wright Brothers
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Some will, some not, and I don't know why makes it a fav topic for ne. The ones that wont cross the line showed me to bed new trap on clean side and small amount scent on dirty side.
Cable slide. Bob J shared this. Place a few stops on cable. As you catch crimp one away from stressed cable area so not to kink same place. Not an always thing, great to preserve trail and hide animal.
Oh and deer step over while fur steps down,, mostly lol.
Can feel the experience while reading, good read.
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Re: Remakes
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12/21/21 10:35 PM
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QuietButDeadly
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My favorite way to deal with good locations is to use a pre-hooked drag where possible. Hook it up away from the trap bed and in cover if possible. The catch will head to the cover and usually will not create a circle at the trap site and I can put the trap back in the same bed and it is ready to go again. If the location is out in the open, using a clog to attach the drag has the same effect. And I just so happened to have a catch in one of my pre-hooked drag sets today and have decent pictures of it. Before: The dead limb is mostly covering the dirt hole and has some lure under it a some coyote urine on it. After: The dirt hole is visible and the coyote shredded the dead limb after the catch but the trap bed/dirt hole is not destroyed. The Catch: The dead grass and leaves were ruffled up and the sapling chewed on but it did not appear the yote had spent hardly any time near the trap bed. The Remake: I had to round up a new dead limb but the same trap went back in the same bed, ready for another customer. Lots of coyote smell but no sharp visual contrast like a typical catch circle. This might not work for you folks that are dealing with frozen ground but is works good most of the time here.
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Re: Remakes
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12/22/21 09:37 PM
12/22/21 09:37 PM
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ShawneeMan
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I think it’s worth mentioning…I always re-lure/bait/urine a remake. I’ve heard people say there’s enough smell there already but all that smell is spread out. There is no overwhelming focal point of lure. I like to use the same smell. It may be all over the place from the last catch but if you provide that focal point the next coyote (target animal) will have a bullseye, so to speak. Gotta agree with that method... I like to spread the bait, lure and urine around a bit to keep Wile-E busy looking and forget about his feet.
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Re: Remakes
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12/22/21 09:59 PM
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Willy Firewood
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Impressive experience and knowledge here. This is the type of discussion that makes this website great!
USMC - I wish I could work like you do. Here opportunities are not very plentiful so no room for error. Drags would be great, but too many people, houses, and liberals. I must catch quickly, anchor securely, and check early.
QBD - Great system! I can have nice dirt, mud, snow, standing water, frozen dirt and back around all in one week. Dealing with that can be harder than trapping. And harder than that is getting and keeping permission on patchwork land.
MChewk - I agree with you absolutely. J hooks are used once. If I open it, it is replaced. No S hooks at all since my welding is destructive, ugly, and unreliable. Quick links are my friends and get tightened with a wrench and screwdriver. Set for a Coyote and anchor for a moose. I have ends ready to easily change anchor methods using a quick link - single stake in frozen ground, double stake in nice ground, cable stake in heavy mud where it seems best, or slide cable to make something disappear. It is easier to keep tools and gear clean than reclean everything. Clean stays clean and stinky stays stinky.
FRAC LIVES MATTER
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Re: Remakes
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12/23/21 06:58 AM
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trappergbus
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I think it’s worth mentioning…I always re-lure/bait/urine a remake. I’ve heard people say there’s enough smell there already but all that smell is spread out. There is no overwhelming focal point of lure. I like to use the same smell. It may be all over the place from the last catch but if you provide that focal point the next coyote (target animal) will have a bullseye, so to speak. Good point, seems I get better responses when I insult their nose by reluring with a strong gland mix or LDC for a distinct focal point. I use the droppings from the caught coyote for the backing.
Common sense catches alot of fur.. Pay homage to all you harvest..
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Re: Remakes
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12/23/21 07:15 AM
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Wright Brothers
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A red by-product from processing chickens (or other) also worked well in that situation. Place something new, they hone in.
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Re: Remakes
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12/23/21 02:50 PM
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Pawnee
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I like enough bait (food) down a hole they feel it's worth entering the catch circle for. Not only alot but something they really like to eat. Free hotdogs are ok but give out free ribeyes and you will have more takers kind of approach. Enough coyote smells and curiosity already there for me. I use a lot of bait at each set too. I think I finally got my bait perfected so it doesn’t cost me much to use produce it.
Everything the left touches it destroys
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Re: Remakes
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12/26/21 09:37 AM
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Wright Brothers
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Is that a faint trail on top the bank to the right? Classic old school fox set. Also like the spot by the backing half in the circle on right. But I'm viewing a pic, you are there.
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Re: Remakes
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12/28/21 09:30 AM
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Wife
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USMC47, Our remakes almost always include a coon, opossum, badger or skunk, IN THE EARLY SEASON farm country. When you hit cold weather (What's that?) those critters are hole up in a den so the rambling non-targets are less of an issue at a site. I swear that the home range on those non-targets covers a big chunk of real estate where habitat is marginal and the food-water needs are a distance from any denning sites - hence they are in the catch circle from the beginning to the end of the warmer weather. From my limited view, the coyotes get shy of a circle more so here in January/February than November if the snow/winter/temps are average. If they have been bucking snow for 60 days they will work a buried bait remake circle to fill that empty tummy about any time. All my remakes DO NOT incorporate a visible dirt hole. For me, its leaf rake the land shape, bury a baseball size of meat, reset, arrange some foot guides and go. And MChewk, when you reset your soybean chaff remakes, try to make it like a hay set with bits of food in the pattern, (get soybean residue from afar if needed) it may help. Has worked for me for a long time.................. the mike
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