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Re: Remakes [Re: USMC47 🦫] #7437514
12/21/21 11:55 AM
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Some will, some not, and I don't know why makes it a fav topic for ne.
The ones that wont cross the line showed me to bed new trap on clean side and small amount scent on dirty side.

Cable slide. Bob J shared this. Place a few stops on cable. As you catch crimp one away from stressed cable area so not to kink same place.
Not an always thing, great to preserve trail and hide animal.

Oh and deer step over while fur steps down,, mostly lol.

Can feel the experience while reading, good read.





Re: Remakes [Re: USMC47 🦫] #7438085
12/21/21 10:35 PM
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My favorite way to deal with good locations is to use a pre-hooked drag where possible. Hook it up away from the trap bed and in cover if possible. The catch will head to the cover and
usually will not create a circle at the trap site and I can put the trap back in the same bed and it is ready to go again. If the location is out in the open, using a clog to attach the drag has the same effect.


And I just so happened to have a catch in one of my pre-hooked drag sets today and have decent pictures of it.

Before:
[Linked Image]
The dead limb is mostly covering the dirt hole and has some lure under it a some coyote urine on it.

After:
[Linked Image]
The dirt hole is visible and the coyote shredded the dead limb after the catch but the trap bed/dirt hole is not destroyed.

The Catch:
[Linked Image]
The dead grass and leaves were ruffled up and the sapling chewed on but it did not appear the yote had spent hardly any time near the trap bed.

The Remake:
[Linked Image]
I had to round up a new dead limb but the same trap went back in the same bed, ready for another customer. Lots of coyote smell but no sharp visual contrast like a typical catch circle.

This might not work for you folks that are dealing with frozen ground but is works good most of the time here.


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Re: Remakes [Re: USMC47 🦫] #7438188
12/22/21 12:06 AM
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Great pictures, Harold. I actually like that color phase of the coyote. Hard to beat stage for speed when resetting.

Weight Bros, Iíve never heard of the stops on the cable. Thatís not a bad idea for the right situation.


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Re: Remakes [Re: USMC47 🦫] #7438222
12/22/21 01:40 AM
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Just caught a second coyote in a dirt hole remake. A few days after the remake I had tracks around the set about a foot from the trap. I added a second trap in the area, about 12" from the other trap and caught a nice female yote this morning. The trap in front of the dirt hole was fired but the one holding her was the one from the outside. It could be that the first dog was a male and this female was leery of the scent he left.

Re: Remakes [Re: USMC47 🦫] #7438390
12/22/21 09:20 AM
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I think itís worth mentioningÖI always re-lure/bait/urine a remake. Iíve heard people say thereís enough smell there already but all that smell is spread out. There is no overwhelming focal point of lure. I like to use the same smell. It may be all over the place from the last catch but if you provide that focal point the next coyote (target animal) will have a bullseye, so to speak.


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Re: Remakes [Re: USMC47 🦫] #7438986
12/22/21 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by USMC47 🦫
I think itís worth mentioningÖI always re-lure/bait/urine a remake. Iíve heard people say thereís enough smell there already but all that smell is spread out. There is no overwhelming focal point of lure. I like to use the same smell. It may be all over the place from the last catch but if you provide that focal point the next coyote (target animal) will have a bullseye, so to speak.

Gotta agree with that method... I like to spread the bait, lure and urine around a bit to keep Wile-E busy looking and forget about his feet.


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Re: Remakes [Re: USMC47 🦫] #7439003
12/22/21 09:54 PM
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I like enough bait (food) down a hole they feel it's worth entering the catch circle for. Not only alot but something they really like to eat. Free hotdogs are ok but give out free ribeyes and you will have more takers kind of approach. Enough coyote smells and curiosity already there for me.

Re: Remakes [Re: USMC47 🦫] #7439013
12/22/21 09:59 PM
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Impressive experience and knowledge here. This is the type of discussion that makes this website great!

USMC - I wish I could work like you do. Here opportunities are not very plentiful so no room for error. Drags would be great, but too many people, houses, and liberals. I must catch quickly, anchor securely, and check early.

QBD - Great system! I can have nice dirt, mud, snow, standing water, frozen dirt and back around all in one week. Dealing with that can be harder than trapping. And harder than that is getting and keeping permission on patchwork land.

MChewk - I agree with you absolutely. J hooks are used once. If I open it, it is replaced. No S hooks at all since my welding is destructive, ugly, and unreliable. Quick links are my friends and get tightened with a wrench and screwdriver. Set for a Coyote and anchor for a moose. I have ends ready to easily change anchor methods using a quick link - single stake in frozen ground, double stake in nice ground, cable stake in heavy mud where it seems best, or slide cable to make something disappear. It is easier to keep tools and gear clean than reclean everything. Clean stays clean and stinky stays stinky.

Re: Remakes [Re: USMC47 🦫] #7439234
12/23/21 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by USMC47 🦫
I think itís worth mentioningÖI always re-lure/bait/urine a remake. Iíve heard people say thereís enough smell there already but all that smell is spread out. There is no overwhelming focal point of lure. I like to use the same smell. It may be all over the place from the last catch but if you provide that focal point the next coyote (target animal) will have a bullseye, so to speak.

Good point, seems I get better responses when I insult their nose by reluring with a strong gland mix or LDC for a distinct focal point. I use the droppings from the caught coyote for the backing.


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Re: Remakes [Re: USMC47 🦫] #7439246
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A red by-product from processing chickens (or other) also worked well in that situation.
Place something new, they hone in.





Re: Remakes [Re: USMC47 🦫] #7439350
12/23/21 09:15 AM
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Wayne has a unique approach to using drags and remakes. Iíll see if I can get pop to chime in.


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Re: Remakes [Re: Yes sir] #7439617
12/23/21 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
I like enough bait (food) down a hole they feel it's worth entering the catch circle for. Not only alot but something they really like to eat. Free hotdogs are ok but give out free ribeyes and you will have more takers kind of approach. Enough coyote smells and curiosity already there for me.


I use a lot of bait at each set too. I think I finally got my bait perfected so it doesnít cost me much to use produce it.


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Re: Remakes [Re: USMC47 🦫] #7440260
12/24/21 09:09 AM
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I just kick the dirt up and make a walk thru set....guess our coyotes are not a bright as the rest of the country...also take bobcats in these walk thru sets....

Re: Remakes [Re: USMC47 🦫] #7440441
12/24/21 12:52 PM
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Hereís an example of a remake. I didnít go out of my way to flatten the original catch circle but you can see both the original trap, which is reset, and the new trap on the edge. It has a whole new smell on that clump of grass.

[Linked Image]


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Re: Remakes [Re: USMC47 🦫] #7441986
12/26/21 09:37 AM
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Is that a faint trail on top the bank to the right? Classic old school fox set.
Also like the spot by the backing half in the circle on right.
But I'm viewing a pic, you are there.





Re: Remakes [Re: USMC47 🦫] #7442019
12/26/21 10:35 AM
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Thatís a trail alright. I catch a couple fox there each year.


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Re: Remakes [Re: USMC47 🦫] #7443043
12/27/21 06:27 PM
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Hereís the remake spot with another today.


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Re: Remakes [Re: USMC47 🦫] #7443070
12/27/21 06:57 PM
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Good job John...thatís a good population of coyotes.

Re: Remakes [Re: USMC47 🦫] #7443304
12/27/21 11:33 PM
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Thatís also some very good dirt to work with ! Mike and I would have a mud hole to work with after a little snow like that . Keep killing them John,
Good job !

Re: Remakes [Re: USMC47 🦫] #7443465
12/28/21 09:30 AM
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USMC47, Our remakes almost always include a coon, opossum, badger or skunk, IN THE EARLY SEASON farm country. When you hit cold weather (What's that?) those critters are hole up in a den so the rambling non-targets are less of an issue at a site. I swear that the home range on those non-targets covers a big chunk of real estate where habitat is marginal and the food-water needs are a distance from any denning sites - hence they are in the catch circle from the beginning to the end of the warmer weather. From my limited view, the coyotes get shy of a circle more so here in January/February than November if the snow/winter/temps are average. If they have been bucking snow for 60 days they will work a buried bait remake circle to fill that empty tummy about any time. All my remakes DO NOT incorporate a visible dirt hole. For me, its leaf rake the land shape, bury a baseball size of meat, reset, arrange some foot guides and go. And MChewk, when you reset your soybean chaff remakes, try to make it like a hay set with bits of food in the pattern, (get soybean residue from afar if needed) it may help. Has worked for me for a long time.................. the mike

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