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Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: LDW] #7458240
01/12/22 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by LDW
I sold mine last Friday. Got $30 each for 10 finished. Read somewhere the other day, that if you have coyotes, sell now for whatever you can get. This guy said if you hold them till later, that it could be a disaster.


Sounds like you did ok at $30, but I don't see how turning down a $10 dollar offer could turn into a disaster. There's not much downside left between 10 and zero.

Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: bowhunterks] #7458247
01/12/22 10:03 AM
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Pretty bad when a coyote won't pay for a pizza.

Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: danny clifton] #7458258
01/12/22 10:22 AM
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I like your thought process. I wonder how many of those Cabelas is selling? Might need to learn to sew.

Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: LDW] #7458265
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Originally Posted by LDW
I sold mine last Friday. Got $30 each for 10 finished. Read somewhere the other day, that if you have coyotes, sell now for whatever you can get. This guy said if you hold them till later, that it could be a disaster.

With such advice why is he buying today? If you’re so poor having dirt cheap coyotes go to nothing is a disaster you probably should be spending your time doing something other than trapping coyotes.


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Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: bowhunterks] #7458295
01/12/22 11:07 AM
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Coyotes will always need killing to keep the numbers under control. When it's no longer profitable it turns from a bidness to a sport.


I know I'm paranoid......but am I paranoid ENOUGH???
Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: danny clifton] #7458316
01/12/22 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Quit giving fur away and it will change

Not if they don't want it. I have heard that there is over 200,000 tanned coyotes waiting for a new home and the price keeps dropping. The country buyers sold coyotes last couple years and the end buyer is stuck with them. Most the buyers in the US ended up getting bailed out by another buyer in the US and he lost $287,000. If no coyotes sell to a end user soon, the price will drop more. The coyotes were all ending up at the same place no matter who bought them from the trapper. If someone has information of coyotes selling to end users I would like to hear it. Some of the bigger country buyers were being financed by the end user and have been cut off too. So that should help them crash more.

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Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: danny clifton] #7458324
01/12/22 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Quit giving fur away and it will change

Originally Posted by danny clifton
If your ok with somebody profiting off your efforts while you lose money thats fine. I am not fine with it. 10 dollar coyotes and cabelas is selling for this. No thanks.

https://www.cabelas.com/r/shop/en/SearchDisplay#q=coyote%20fur%20hat&numberOfResults=32



Well tan them and sell them as hats fot that price. Its value added and you need to be able to find your market.

I cant eve get my fur put up myself and i cant find anyone i can pay to do it. Low fur prices but i would pay what guys are getting for their finished fur to put mine up but no one is intrested. Heck thats just fleashing can do the skinning.

Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: bowhunterks] #7458325
01/12/22 11:44 AM
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The end user is people buying coats. I still see coats advertised with fur ruffs.


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Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: Gary Benson] #7458330
01/12/22 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Coyotes will always need killing to keep the numbers under control. When it's no longer profitable it turns from a bidness to a sport.


Gary I agree with you 100% about the killing. I feel folks in the eastern USA don't understand the damage these predators can do do livestock. Primarily sheep, goats and cattle. Some are waking up however as there prize deer herds are diminishing some.

As for populations even with the high prices of last year and a few years before the populations seem to be down just a tad. In fact it wasn't so many years ago, large, heavy white bellies were selling for $12- $25 and those ugly rainbow colored ones east tof the Missouri River could not be given away. In fact I know today of a few buyers that wont accept some of those ugly rainbow ones.


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Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: Larry Sills] #7458339
01/12/22 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Sills
Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Coyotes will always need killing to keep the numbers under control. When it's no longer profitable it turns from a bidness to a sport.


Gary I agree with you 100% about the killing. I feel folks in the eastern USA don't understand the damage these predators can do do livestock. Primarily sheep, goats and cattle. Some are waking up however as there prize deer herds are diminishing some.

As for populations even with the high prices of last year and a few years before the populations seem to be down just a tad. In fact it wasn't so many years ago, large, heavy white bellies were selling for $12- $25 and those ugly rainbow colored ones east tof the Missouri River could not be given away. In fact I know today of a few buyers that wont accept some of those ugly rainbow ones.


Maybe the damage they do should be a wake up call that we should stop farming as heavy to support so many mouth breathers in the USA. It's not like they even support farmers anyways, all they want is the literal lowest price they can pay for food. To say that coyotes are doing damage when they are part of the natural ecosystem of kind of silly, this is why wolves are not as widespread anymore. Too many mouth breathers in the farming industry who only don't care about anything else except for whats in between their fence lines. Go to places like Maryland, Northern Virginia, where there are way too many deer as it is, killing coyotes is not going to help that problem, the only thing it's going to do is make the deer overpopulation much worst.

If you could allude or speak to where these "prized" deer herds exist in the east, I would love to know. Once you get south of Virginia the deer all look like small dogs because we love to shoot 1 year old and 2 year old deer instead of letting them reach good maturity size! Again look at the allotment for each of the southern states, it will astound you, because in GA, it may be a little bit different now, but you used to be able to kill 12 every year. Here in LA we can get all the way up to 6, if done correctly, but the eastern states need coyotes, wolves, whatever they can get to help them with the overpopulation of deer.

Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: bowhunterks] #7458410
01/12/22 01:24 PM
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Stop food production Tofan? Are you suggesting that we need to lower the human population to make room for animals? If you are I suggest you start with your own family and your own self.


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Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: bowhunterks] #7458415
01/12/22 01:30 PM
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We've been here b4 with fur prices.

Seek other markets if you catch a small enough amount of pelts that you can tan and sell or tan and make into garments and sell.

The longline/big numbers trappers are out of business unless they get paid to trap.

Hobby/wildlife management trappers can continue to make themselves feel good for killing 4 or 5 coyotes, and a few coons and possums.

Nothing we, as trappers, can do will change the current narket conditions.


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Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: danny clifton] #7458462
01/12/22 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Quit giving fur away and it will change


Danny there not listening But you are absolutely correct.
Or better yet do not trap or shoot till prices come back.
There is 250,000 to 300,000 tanned. Coyote sitting waiting that they can not move , starting to sound familiar???


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Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: bowhunterks] #7458488
01/12/22 02:33 PM
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Swampwolf, we have never been here before, in so many ways, including the fur market.

Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: WBG] #7458490
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Originally Posted by WBG
Swampwolf, we have never been here before, in so many ways, including the fur market.

You must be a young man. Im 57 and have seen prices worse than this in the early 90s.

So yes.....we have been here b4.


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Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: WBG] #7458492
01/12/22 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by WBG
Swampwolf, we have never been here before, in so many ways, including the fur market.


The big way is in 1990 we hadn't developed the new markets of China and Russia. Now they are developed and prices are worse. Not counting inflation.


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Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: bowhunterks] #7458494
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So...yall think we are plowing new ground? Dont seem like it to me. Same deal...different decade.


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Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: bowhunterks] #7458509
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Sorry JR., but You did not see worse prices in the 90's when the buying power of the dollar is taken into account, as it should be. When talking about the great crash of 87 many items recovered in a few years. For example I was selling male Mink for 30 dollars by 92 or 93, of course there was still an Italian market at that time.

Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: danny clifton] #7458543
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Quit giving fur away and it will change


Farmers been saying for years they aren't making money, but they can't help but bulldoze more ground so they can give more grain away. Ten dollars ain't much but it beats nothing.

Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: bowhunterks] #7458550
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The "buying power of the dollar"?

For sure most things cost less back in the early 90s so the dollar bought more, but our lives were financially adjusted to those times...as they are now.

Low fur prices then...low fur prices now.....tomato...tamatoe....

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