Re: Bobcat boarded
[Re: newfox1]
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01/24/22 10:01 PM
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The back of the neck is gonna be the last area to dry. It'll slip there too. I'd try and wedge it front and back even though you have it on an adjustable stretcher.
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Re: Bobcat boarded
[Re: newfox1]
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01/24/22 10:55 PM
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Why did you put it on the board like that? Highly likely to have problems with that skin,may not show up until it comes back from the dressers.
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Re: Bobcat boarded
[Re: newfox1]
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01/24/22 11:51 PM
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I have boarded a few fox and bcats fur out from the get go....but I dusted the skin side with borax b4 boarding.
I havent done it like this in years...to worried about it not drying properly.
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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01/25/22 10:30 AM
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There must have been a reason, why did you skip the flip?
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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01/25/22 02:46 PM
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I don't flip here in Nevada, but that's just because its so dry. Borax the whole pelt and get a fan on it like they said. And check out this video on how to put up a cat: you can just skip forward and watch him put it up. How to put up a cat
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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01/25/22 05:04 PM
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There must have been a reason, why did you skip the flip? I would like to know your answer to this question also, or are you just plain lazy.
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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01/25/22 07:06 PM
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Okay, part of the reason for putting the cat on fur out was orientation on the board, partly so I didn’t have to babysit it, and partly because some of this country’s premier cat men say it is not necessary. So how do I sort the fact from fiction if I don’t do it myself??? It’s very dry in my shed the Woodstove is stoked a couple times a day, so far I have concluded that the fan is a great idea, the belly wedges are a great idea, leaving the feet turned is a great idea, the cat is drying nicely. Bctomcat you’re kinda hard to like.
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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01/25/22 10:21 PM
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I don't flip here in Nevada, but that's just because its so dry. Borax the whole pelt and get a fan on it like they said. And check out this video on how to put up a cat: you can just skip forward and watch him put it up. How to put up a catNever put up a cat, but seems to me even if you have to put on the board skin out for a few hours at the least, it would be better than not...I don't want to ruffle feathers, nor do I feel I'm educated enough to comment, but just would like to know the thought process behind this. I'm not here to admonish, I'm here to learn!
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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01/25/22 10:42 PM
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[ Bctomcat you’re kinda hard to like. OK here's another reason to not like me. Why have you not cleaned up the blood on the cats foot?
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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01/26/22 12:45 PM
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Bctomcat,Those feet are turned inside out and that’s the foot that had the trap on it, do you have any way to remove bloodshot.??? YES, you can use borax to clean fur, especially with regard to dried blood stains. Once the skin has dried and the fur turned out work considerable dry borax powder into the stained areas, let set for 10-15 minutes and then comb, brush, and shake the borax out. Using this borax treatment method works extremely well as can be seen in the following before and after pictures. As well as removing blood stains the borax also cleans and brightens the fur.
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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01/29/22 12:11 PM
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I There must have been a reason, why did you skip the flip? I would like to know your answer to this question also, or are you just plain lazy.
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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01/29/22 12:15 PM
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I have known newfox1 for most of my life. He does get lazy once in a while. I just kick him in the butt to jump start him and he's fine for a few days.
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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01/29/22 07:58 PM
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The fur often falls out down each side during tanning.Wont be noticed beforehand.
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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01/29/22 11:35 PM
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How long was it on the board before it dried? I just boarded this one.It will by dry by morning and I will turn it. I wont take any chances with a nice cat-I dont have any problem turning a dry cat.
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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02/05/22 12:42 PM
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Good morning, I'm fine and just waiting for the return of your dressed furs.
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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02/05/22 01:31 PM
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If your planning to have It tanned there Is no reason to do the flip. Just leave that hide skin out.
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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02/05/22 11:01 PM
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If your planning to have It tanned there Is no reason to do the flip. Just leave that hide skin out. Thats what I do. Everything stays fur in.
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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02/06/22 12:50 AM
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I put all my fur up for the fur market,unless obviously damaged or otherwise unsuitable for the raw fur auction,(small size,early incidental etc) Once all my fur is put up,I grade it out and decide which pelts go to the tannery,which pelts go to the auction and which ones I will tan myself.
Grading single pelts or animals on the carcass is not the same as sorting a larger amount of fur of the same species-sorting is more accurate way to grade.
Just the way I do it.
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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02/06/22 01:06 AM
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The OP Is sending ONE hide to the tannery.
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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So what?I said what I do for informative dialogue. Of course if you know a hide is definitely going to the tanner there is no need to turn it. No need to even case skin it for that matter.
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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Seems to me you need to skin It since the tannery dosen't except carcass goods.
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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Seems to me you need to skin It since the tannery dosen't except carcass goods.
I think Boco is referring to just flat board skinning it, since that is what the tannery is going to do when they get it if I understand correctly.
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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Well Boco said you don't even have to CASE skin It but I guess If I was sending any thing other then a beaver It would have to be CASE skinned.
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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02/06/22 05:13 PM
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So if you send a case skinned fur to a tannery they will always open it up? No they will not, at least Moyle does not split your hide. We have all of our Moyle furs tanned cased, except a feral hog and mt lion.
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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International in Winnipeg charges a bit extra for case tanned skins. Depends on the skin and end use really.Mink marten fox wolf coyote coon etc almost always get split up the belly for garment use anyway.You wouldnt want to split the belly on a cat though. Taxi stuff is a different story.
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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Seems like a fitting threat to ask this question. Anyone here ever stretch a bobcat on a wire stretcher of an appropriate size? I have some wood stretchers I have used in the past, and don't really like the look of them when they came off the boards, so this year I threw some on my coyote and racoon wire stretchers just to see what they end up looking like. So far I kinda prefer the look on the wire. Something to keep in mind... I do not have high dollar bobcats on my line like you guys do further west.
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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02/24/22 01:27 PM
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Seems like a fitting threat to ask this question. Anyone here ever stretch a bobcat on a wire stretcher of an appropriate size? I have some wood stretchers I have used in the past, and don't really like the look of them when they came off the boards, so this year I threw some on my coyote and racoon wire stretchers just to see what they end up looking like. So far I kinda prefer the look on the wire. Something to keep in mind... I do not have high dollar bobcats on my line like you guys do further west. Yes...wire will be OK for bcats. But, my experience is boards make for a better looking dried pelt....not as flat looking.
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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02/25/22 01:11 PM
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IMHO boards make all species of cased pelts look better. Much of presentation is just minor style differences which attempts to influence the grader. Presentation just shows pride in put up and it can count at times when it provides a favorable initial view to the fur grader.
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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I do believe that boards help with the appearance. I need all the help I can get down here! Very Nice!!!
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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02/28/22 01:17 PM
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Thanks for the replies. I assumed most would prefer the wooden boards. And maybe the real answer is I need to catch more cats so I have to use the wooden boards!!
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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How did the feet come out?
I'd like to get a Fisher done with feet and claws on.
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Re: Bobcat boarded
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05/08/22 05:49 PM
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How did the feet come out?
I'd like to get a Fisher done with feet and claws on. The cats come out nicer than the otter, think I’m going to get a taxidermy tan on these next two otter, to see if they are softer.
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