Re: Choosing Lure
[Re: silkyplainscoyot]
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02/13/22 08:17 PM
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Yes, I think most trappers have a particular process to their choice at a set. More than likely your food and curiosity lures go into a dirt hole set, but an adaptable trapper can use those same things at a flat set just by smearing them on an object. As for gland lure, I'm one that believes it stays on the surface not down in hole. You can use gland lure in whatever scenario you choose. On a object by itself, on a objects next to your dirt hole with a food/curiosity lure. This.
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Re: Choosing Lure
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
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02/13/22 08:25 PM
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You need this book. It was written by Charles Dobbins (Paul's dad). It will answer your questions and rapidly flatten your learning curve on trapping. I’ve got it in my library! Just read through it again a couple weeks ago trying to pick up new tips. Sounds like I need to look back through it again this week. I’ve been trapping for about 10 years and do decent on my small line, but feel like I’ve regressed. For instance, I’m not even catching coons/possums/grey fox this year. I’ve caught a handful of coyotes, but have missed more than I feel like I should. I will say that something seems off this year. Not sure if it’s because I didn’t treat any of my traps this season since I didn’t get in the trapping mood until late, or something else. Regardless, I’m trying to take a more intentional approach to my trapping so that I can get better. In the past I had my favorite lures and would use them however it felt right, but didn’t keep records to know what was most successful. Now I’m trying to break everything apart to do better and keep records of what works and what doesn’t for my style. I do plan to do some lure testing to see what works best for me as well I appreciate the suggestion swampwolf and will definitely go back through it with pen in hand this week!
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Re: Choosing Lure
[Re: sportsman94]
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02/13/22 09:32 PM
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Find some ones you like and try a couple new lures every year as change ups to see if you like them as you go along through the seasons is what do.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Choosing Lure
[Re: sportsman94]
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02/13/22 09:56 PM
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Dont overthink it.
Use the best equipment you can afford. Tune up the traps so they fire properly. Keep your gear as clean as you can and organized. Make sets WITHIN INCHES, not feet, of critter sign. Use good quality lures and baits from a reputable lure maker.
And.....set a bunch of traps to catch a bunch of critters. That's what I have to do...lol.
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Re: Choosing Lure
[Re: sportsman94]
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02/14/22 10:44 AM
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Location was the biggest hurdle when I started trapping I remember buying several dozen Northwoods traps then not being sure where to set them, it was crushing at the time but you overcome that.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Choosing Lure
[Re: Yes sir]
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02/14/22 12:52 PM
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I do a lot of testing in the off season. In my area I've seen a lot of lures not test very well. It's been an eye opening experience. The animals will not lie. I personally believe marketing and popularity sells as much or more lure than quality and catches. I know this is an unpopular view but this is my experience. X2
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Re: Choosing Lure
[Re: sportsman94]
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02/14/22 01:41 PM
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Does anyone have a process to their lure choice at a particular set? With gland lures, curiosity lures, rub lures, and food lures, how do you decide which one to use at which set for predators? When do you like to use gland lure? When do you use food lure? Etc. Are you trying to paint a picture/scenario or do you just grab whichever one you happen to grab first? I’m just curious what goes into your lure choice at any given set and what kinds of lure you prefer at different kinds of sets. I used to overthink it, just in the same way you are. I have since simplified to the following, and it has proved to be successful for me. Eliminates wasting time at a set trying to determine what to do, which was a huge problem for me. I carry 2 baits, both with very little to no taint. 1 deer meat based (with hearts and liver), 1 bobcat and beaver based. I carry red fox and coyote urine. I keep a red fox gland lure, some type of skunky lure, and a castor based lure, or straight castor. When I set an area, I usually set 2 traps at each good location, 1 dirthole, 1 flat set. I run mostly double dirtholes, with one type of bait in each hole, and a skunky lure up top as a call lure. I use coyote urine sometimes, but not all the time, at the dirtholes. I'll make a flat set close by, usually with a dropping, and some type of natural mark like a rock, stick, or grass clump, and create a walk through. Dropping gets red fox gland lure, and red fox urine, natural mark gets castor based lure. That's it, I run my whole line like this from the start. If things start going stale, I will break out different lures to try, or maybe change to a tainted meat base. Biggest thing is location, which has been mentioned. It's so important, I will repeat it again. Set on sign, within inches, and keep it simple. Get in and get out, and pound in as many sets as you can on good sign. I'll take 10 sets on sign over 3 farms verses 50 sets all over 1 farm on places that "look like they should be good". And to clarify, I am targeting coyotes. I've taken 9 coyotes in the last 8 days running 12 traps within a half mile of my house using these methods. There is no trick, KISS is the best way.
Happy Trapping . . .
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Re: Choosing Lure
[Re: Yes sir]
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02/14/22 01:53 PM
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I do a lot of testing in the off season. In my area I've seen a lot of lures not test very well. It's been an eye opening experience. The animals will not lie. I personally believe marketing and popularity sells as much or more lure than quality and catches. I know this is an unpopular view but this is my experience. Like making fishing lures. Not so much as to catch the fish but the fisherman.
Common sense is a not a vegetable that does well in everyone's garden.
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Re: Choosing Lure
[Re: sportsman94]
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02/15/22 08:50 AM
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With set types and attractor choices I ask myself what they are here for at that location. If I see prey I use a food base if I see a scratch kick or a dropping then it's gland and urine. If in doubt multiple choices. The coyotes themselves will teach you what they prefer. Its like fishing for bass, sometimes a little finesse is in order. They don't always eat crank baits..
Common sense catches alot of fur.. Pay homage to all you harvest..
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