Re: trump praises putin??
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The biggest threat to this country currently is our own government, And every Trump hater , every last one of them The country was on a positive path to MAGA Now look at this disastrous shite mess we are in
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Re: trump praises putin??
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Need to remember, recognizing tactical or political genius is hardly praise or support... Real villains generally aren't stupid.
There have been some pretty dastardly people who pulled off some amazing feats throughout history... Attila the Hun, Ghengis Khan, Napoleon, Hitler/Rommel... Some of those people were so good at what they did that we still study their methods in military academies.
Recognizing a brilliant move(s) is hardly worship. Putin waited until he had all of pieces in place. And the rest of the world sat back and watched while he placed them. Or even stupidly blundered their way (looking at you Merkel) into helping him set the pieces.
Recognizing how he wrangled this doesn't make anyone a Putin supporter... It means they're paying attention.
Mike
Should we recognize the brilliant move of Osama Bin Laden taking down the WTC and hitting the US Pentagon with 3 planes and some ragheads with boxcutters? I must have missed Bill Clinton recognizing that brilliant move. You have to admit the tenacity to try and ability to locate a key vulnerability is above average. Underappreciating the strengths of an opponent is defeat in the making.
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Re: trump praises putin??
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Why would bill Clinton recognize the Osama bin laden move.. bush was president.get it Dude. The title of this thread is "trump praises putin??". Trump is not the president, yet he praised Putin--hence the analogy. I respect White so I am done explaining this to you.
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Re: trump praises putin??
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Should we recognize the brilliant move of Osama Bin Laden taking down the WTC and hitting the US Pentagon with 3 planes and some ragheads with boxcutters?
I must have missed Bill Clinton recognizing that brilliant move.
You have to admit the tenacity to try and ability to locate a key vulnerability is above average. Underappreciating the strengths of an opponent is defeat in the making. Sure in an analytical sense. Hopefully 9-11 was studied by people, agencies and schools that study such things. But you don't go on the "shows" as a former president and praise Osama Bin Laden or Putin regardless of how "brilliant" their move was. Trump praising Putin demonstrated, among other things, Trump's inability to keep his mouth shut.
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Re: trump praises putin??
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If words really matter then you should be worried about Bidens. He got us to where we are now........ . Can you remember a president telegraphing more empty threats than Biden did? Who in the world takes the man seriously? No one.
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Re: trump praises putin??
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skipped most of the pages looked more like name calling facebooker scat Did check cbs news agreed with the last line Russia says the sanctions show the helplessness of the West anyone care to comment on how the USA Canada and Germany got to that point I'll Wait
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Re: trump praises putin??
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Need to remember, recognizing tactical or political genius is hardly praise or support... Real villains generally aren't stupid.
There have been some pretty dastardly people who pulled off some amazing feats throughout history... Attila the Hun, Ghengis Khan, Napoleon, Hitler/Rommel... Some of those people were so good at what they did that we still study their methods in military academies.
Recognizing a brilliant move(s) is hardly worship. Putin waited until he had all of pieces in place. And the rest of the world sat back and watched while he placed them. Or even stupidly blundered their way (looking at you Merkel) into helping him set the pieces.
Recognizing how he wrangled this doesn't make anyone a Putin supporter... It means they're paying attention.
Mike
Should we recognize the brilliant move of Osama Bin Laden taking down the WTC and hitting the US Pentagon with 3 planes and some ragheads with boxcutters? I must have missed Bill Clinton recognizing that brilliant move. He pulled it off didn't he? A week before it happened if someone handed you a paper with his plan on it would you have taken it seriously? That group of "ragheads" caught us with our pants down... And not recognizing that or paying attention to how it was done is a surefire way to let it happen again. Everybody hates 9/11... But to just be PO'ed and not recognize the workings of how it happened is dangerous and stupid. Putin has played the long game on this... He pulled off Crimea under Obama's watch... He waited through Trump and quietly moved pieces into place... And he saw Biden for what he was and moved. He saw his window between the election and midterms that might swing congress to a "less timid" majority. You can be indignant all you want. But if you don't step back and recognize that he has made all the "right" moves for the game he's playing... he will keep winning. Perhaps shrewd is more fitting than genius. And he has proven that he is shrewd. Mike
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Re: trump praises putin??
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Do you think Trump will make the media become neutral?
Yes to the second question, it’s called tact, Trump has none because he’s always been surrounded by “yes men”. Frankly he was an embarrassment in the debates with Biden, I knew then he would lose. Like it or not, you gotta play that game to win. So he did lose over mean tweets. lol I can’t wait until he runs independent and sticks it to those thin skin suburbanites.
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Re: trump praises putin??
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He pulled it off didn't he? A week before it happened if someone handed you a paper with his plan on it would you have taken it seriously? That group of "ragheads" caught us with our pants down... And not recognizing that or paying attention to how it was done is a surefire way to let it happen again.
Everybody hates 9/11... But to just be PO'ed and not recognize the workings of how it happened is dangerous and stupid.
Putin has played the long game on this... He pulled off Crimea under Obama's watch... He waited through Trump and quietly moved pieces into place... And he saw Biden for what he was and moved. He saw his window between the election and midterms that might swing congress to a "less timid" majority.
You can be indignant all you want. But if you don't step back and recognize that he has made all the "right" moves for the game he's playing... he will keep winning.
Perhaps shrewd is more fitting than genius. And he has proven that he is shrewd.
Mike
Mike--the question is not whether Bin Laden or Putin pulled off great moves. Yeah, Bin Laden pulled it off. Putin may have pulled it off. The question is whether a former President should be praising those great moves?. The answer is no.
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Re: trump praises putin??
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If words really matter then you should be worried about Bidens. He got us to where we are now........ . Can you remember a president telegraphing more empty threats than Biden did? Who in the world takes the man seriously? No one. Didnt he draw a red line?
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