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Re: Gas prices < not a joke [Re: rags57078] #7519001
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Honda really hadn't put much a dent in the American car market until Jimmy Carter's gas issues with the Iranian deal. All of a sudden, people started checking out those old school Honda Civics that got 30+ miles a gallon. I suspect that if $4-5 gallon gas comes and stays for a while, high mph vehicles will be in vogue again and fewer pickups and big suv's tooling around. The problem is that we've already sort of burned that "quick fix" because we devalued the USD so much that a 30+ mph car won't gain people on the edge where fuel is a noticeable amount of their take home pay. If gas would go to $6-8 a gallon and stay there, then I think all bets are off for things staying together, some places becoming a lot more volatile than other lotions.

The greedy development goofs here want to put 300 apartment units across the "highway" (only about 50 mph) from our subdivision on the edge of bedroom town. Our subdivision are larger sized lots, about 2-3 houses per acre than what is typically found in "big city" nearby but the land across the road is not zoned single-family residence and the cropland they're converting went straight to "commercial/ multi-family". So, they're going to double the population out here by only adding a fifth of the current developed land. 300+ more cars coming onto the 2-lane "highway" from 2 driveways. Besides just the greater coin for the developers, what I think the city council/county leaders are angling for is to have Uncle Sugar pay some of the eventual widening of the highway to 4-lanes. I can see a deal being cut where reps of Uncle Sugar agree as long as half of those apartment units are used to house Prez Sniffy's line jumpers they flying all over the country. Lots of business leaders in "big city" would love to have more cheap immigrant labor. Swell...


All them califiornians noems bringin in. I bet Pierre isnt getting bombarded….


DWC- i know your dislike for Kristi is legendary but I doubt its formerly home owning Californians that are going to be living in those apartments that maybe will impact my property value Most Calis I know who have moved here and had a house out there could buy mine AND yours combined and have some change left over to spare...


"And God said, Let us make man in our image …and let them have dominion …and all the creatures that move along the ground".
Genesis 1:26
Re: Gas prices < not a joke [Re: rags57078] #7519002
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Rags, you will look pretty choice on Hwy 50 this warm season driving that 2-wheeled beast. Enjoy the wind!!


"And God said, Let us make man in our image …and let them have dominion …and all the creatures that move along the ground".
Genesis 1:26
Re: Gas prices < not a joke [Re: rags57078] #7519155
03/06/22 09:27 AM
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"The Bottom Line
Oil prices do have an impact on the U.S. economy, but it goes two ways because of the diversity of industries. High oil prices can drive job creation and investment as it becomes economically viable for oil companies to exploit higher-cost shale oil deposits. However, high oil prices also hit businesses and consumers with higher transportation and manufacturing costs. Lower oil prices hurt the unconventional oil activity, but benefits manufacturing and other sectors where fuel costs are a primary concern."

The U.S. is going to get more energy independent. You don't seem to like cheaper foreign oil. That should make you fellows happy. Enjoy your non-reliance on foreign oil.

"The shale industry alone drove 10 percent of the growth in the U.S. economy’s gross domestic product from 2010 to 2015, according to a new study by the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas showing how oil and natural gas deliver wins for the larger economy."

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Re: Gas prices < not a joke [Re: rags57078] #7519274
03/06/22 11:36 AM
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Just got back from costco filling up my truck, diesel $4.56 gal up from $3.86 3 weeks ago. Total cost today $152.50 I'll see what it cost in a month as i only have to fill once a month if im careful.

Re: Gas prices < not a joke [Re: rags57078] #7519286
03/06/22 11:48 AM
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I agree Dirt the work in the oil patch is picking up in Wy. in times of need for oil we still have ours which strategically is a good situation oil and money in the bank. As far as driving 75 thousand miles a year Im sure your in business sneaky pass on the price to your customers. Seems to me so many on this site have vary little working knowledge of how the oil industry works. You blame it all on the XL pipeline leg that Biden stopped. If he had not stopped it, it would still not be in operation yet today. There are so many fields right now that have been off line because of the low prices we experienced because of over production the past few years. They were not making any money and they stopped producing. Just like the fur market, no money in fur production not as many are out trapping. Yeah we have the few that trap for fun at a loss. Well the oil companies dont produce oil for fun but for profit! No money no domestic oil, they filled the contracts and that was it shut off the taps. The oil companies are also great at manipulating the price and have ways of getting the most for there efforts and a lot are not legal and they have no allegiance to America, its called capitalism.

Re: Gas prices < not a joke [Re: danvee] #7519290
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Originally Posted by danvee
I agree Dirt the work in the oil patch is picking up in Wy. in times of need for oil we still have ours which strategically is a good situation oil and money in the bank. As far as driving 75 thousand miles a year Im sure your in business sneaky pass on the price to your customers. Seems to me so many on this site have vary little working knowledge of how the oil industry works. You blame it all on the XL pipeline leg that Biden stopped. If he had not stopped it, it would still not be in operation yet today. There are so many fields right now that have been off line because of the low prices we experienced because of over production the past few years. They were not making any money and they stopped producing. Just like the fur market, no money in fur production not as many are out trapping. Yeah we have the few that trap for fun at a loss. Well the oil companies dont produce oil for fun but for profit! No money no domestic oil, they filled the contracts and that was it shut off the taps. The oil companies are also great at manipulating the price and have ways of getting the most for there efforts and a lot are not legal and they have no allegiance to America, its called capitalism.


The costs of high energy goes well beyond what you pay to fill up your vehicle, something the dems don't seem to understand.

Re: Gas prices < not a joke [Re: rags57078] #7519317
03/06/22 12:32 PM
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So the administration is supposed to mandate the oil companies to drill or subsidies them even more than what they are now. Maybe the Dems should just pass out free gas cards? and by our fur? Its called business and capitalism. The middle east and Russian oil production got on line because our American companies put them in business with our knowledge and technology the oil companies made a fast buck and now we are hooked on there oil because they can produce it cheaper.

Re: Gas prices < not a joke [Re: danvee] #7519327
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Originally Posted by danvee
So the administration is supposed to mandate the oil companies to drill or subsidies them even more than what they are now. Maybe the Dems should just pass out free gas cards? and by our fur? Its called business and capitalism. The middle east and Russian oil production got on line because our American companies put them in business with our knowledge and technology the oil companies made a fast buck and now we are hooked on there oil because they can produce it cheaper.


You are so living in a fantasy world. They don't need to mandate more just let the ones that already had the contracts go back to producing.
First we wouldn't care or need what foriegn oil was producing if BOBO and the clown squad circus hadn't changed direction THE FIRST DAY IN OFFICE. Their goal was to make fossil fuel equipment more expensive because NO NONE can make battery powered ANYTHING to be as effieceint and reliable as gas. So don't make one cheap just make the other cost more. Remember the gridlock on I-95 when there was people stuck for 28 hrs ? If those had been electric vehicles and the temps dropped to 10 degrees how many would have died. OR been rescued by a gas vehicle
American technology is used everywhere in the world . Not just oil co. Plus is it is so cheap to produce oil In other countrie wheres the cheap prices. IT IS A scam. The whole Ukraine mess is polotics. Their redeemed leader is a puppet that was an actor and was put in by foreign interest. world wide production HAS NOT DROPPED since December but gas has doubled/.

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Re: Gas prices < not a joke [Re: rags57078] #7519333
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OMG just googled it oil production is UP 1.1 mill per day versus last month and 5 million barrels a day from last year !!! Hmmmm I smell a dirty politician....


Like I said earlier just wait on big oil profits this quarter...

Re: Gas prices < not a joke [Re: rags57078] #7519392
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Supply has not caught up to demand.


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Re: Gas prices < not a joke [Re: rags57078] #7519393
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Man you got an answer and solution for all the problems you should get into politics and big business.

Re: Gas prices < not a joke [Re: rags57078] #7519418
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last thur. diesel was 3.999, friday it was 4.399, saturday 4.499, today its 4.799, thaats at the same station, have saw it 5.099 in va. where it was always for the last 3 years .14 cheaper per gallon than here in Wv. gettin crazy, was 3.399 less than a month ago.

Re: Gas prices < not a joke [Re: rags57078] #7519449
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Increase in transportation cost will raise the cost of all goods due that cost being a pass through cost to consumers. Consumers having less money left buy less leads to less demand for products. Less demand for products = producesr cut back= lay offs. Layoffs = even less money to be spent compounding the problem.

We are not only going to see a recession but likely a full blown depression. That's without adding in the grain shortage and rising imput cost to farm adding to food cost pointed out in other thread's.


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Re: Gas prices < not a joke [Re: rags57078] #7519456
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As of this morning our diesel went to $ 5.25 and gas $ 4.99

Re: Gas prices < not a joke [Re: rags57078] #7519474
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With gas at $5 or better oil use will go down, people will stay home, will be hard enough to fill the tank to go to work. Biden came out and said he would end fossil fuels and he's trying to do just that, for a guy that lies at every turn at least he told the truth on that, to bad liberals didn't listen.

Re: Gas prices < not a joke [Re: Rat Masterson] #7519483
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
With gas at $5 or better oil use will go down, people will stay home, will be hard enough to fill the tank to go to work. Biden came out and said he would end fossil fuels and he's trying to do just that, for a guy that lies at every turn at least he told the truth on that, to bad liberals didn't listen.

True, but with a fraudulent election, it didn't matter. The liberals won, even though they really lost.

Re: Gas prices < not a joke [Re: rags57078] #7519603
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Talked to brother in UK (close to London). Gas on what would be like our interstates is over $ 9 a gallon ( converted from litter prices) and around 7.50 in regular areas. They are always higher than us but glad we are not there yet.


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Re: Gas prices < not a joke [Re: rags57078] #7519606
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when they ban russian oil imports next week it is going up quite a bit...jmo. we could easily see $7 or more for gasoline.



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Re: Gas prices < not a joke [Re: rags57078] #7519610
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The two primary modes of transportation used by most leftists is your basic skateboard and private jets. Very little in between.

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Re: Gas prices < not a joke [Re: rags57078] #7519649
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$4.25 here in town supposedly negotiations will start tomorrow Russia will get the ports and nuclear plants Ukraine gets leftovers Nato is happy cause they didn't have to do anything except give up weapons which will get reimbursed by the U S nobody had to shut off Putins oil We paid the bill at the pumps Bidens a hero for not getting involved and saving everyone from fossil emissions JMHO


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