Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
[Re: Guss]
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04/27/22 06:29 PM
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Yes! Buy a pair and ALWAYS keep them within arms reach when setting large conibears. You will eventually need them to get yourself out of the trap.
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
[Re: Guss]
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04/27/22 11:39 PM
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Get the caulking gun type setters. You only need one hand to use them.
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
[Re: Guss]
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Yes Warrior the springs on mine are getting stronger also. I have what I think are Bridgers . I think they are worth every penny, but the Beav is right the ones he is talking about can be used with one hand .
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
[Re: Guss]
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
[Re: Guss]
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Get two and thank me later LOL...
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
[Re: Guss]
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04/28/22 10:05 PM
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Sometime I'll make a video of me setting a brand new out-of-the-box Belisle in under 15 seconds....by hand. (I'm a 65 year old diabetic weakling). I'm thinking with correct style most of you guys can do it. It's usually even easier if you have a critter to remove, with the possible exception of when they are caught around the mid rift.
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
[Re: Guss]
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I learned to use a rope when I was a kid, and carried one for years but hardly ever used it once I got old enough to compress the springs by hand. I've got a pair of setters now, but I generally only use them to set the Sleepy Creek 4 1/2 longsprings, not the conibears they were designed for. I grab a 330 by the eyes, put the heel of each hand on an eye at chest height, squeeze them together and give the trap a little flip to swing the safety on (won't work with Belisle type safeties), flip the trap over and do the other side. I don't know what beaverpeeler's method is with a Belisle, but I can set the brands with a floppy safety in under fifteen seconds. Doesn't work quite as easily with a fifty pound beaver in the trap, but once you get one spring compressed and latched, most times if you are holding the trap up the beaver slides out by gravity as soon as you get the other spring partway compressed.
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
[Re: Guss]
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04/29/22 11:38 AM
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Make your own caulk gun setter from used caulk guns by using them in reverse. Hammer the 90 bent side into a hook and pt a short bolt at top of handle side(to hook spring eye) and you have a cheap setter that sets BG's up to 280 with ease. Guns with hex shaft are best as they will not rotate and release open on you until wanted. Use a magnum size gun for 330's. They work for years if you can keep from losing them, lol. Even painted blaze yellow, Man things can disappear.
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
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Setting by hand is not the best idea in the long run because it’s tough on your finger joints when you get older. if you need to set a 330 in a pinch use the available smaller beaver cuts to support the lower spring.
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
[Re: Guss]
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Peeler you are doing great at 15 seconds. When young, very strong, and incredibly foolish, I entered the 330 setting contest. I have been practicing for awhile. I won the contest at just over 9 seconds. The prize was the 330. A better prize would be the setters. Get the setter and keep it handy.
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
[Re: The Beav]
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Get the caulking gun type setters. You only need one hand to use them. I second that! I have the Sleepy Creek aluminum scissor tyle for back up to my RTS setters.
you're only allowed so many sunrises... I aim to see every one of them!
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
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Peeler you are doing great at 15 seconds. When young, very strong, and incredibly foolish, I entered the 330 setting contest. I have been practicing for awhile. I won the contest at just over 9 seconds. The prize was the 330. A better prize would be the setters. Get the setter and keep it handy. I'm pretty certain I can match the 9 seconds.
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
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I'm pretty certain I can match the 9 seconds.
How long to get out of them? I am one who agrees with getting the setters after going 25 years without them. I have used them now for the past 25 and have no regrets.
I'm just happy to be here! Today I'm as young as I'll ever be and and older than I've ever been before!
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
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Peeler you are doing great at 15 seconds. When young, very strong, and incredibly foolish, I entered the 330 setting contest. I have been practicing for awhile. I won the contest at just over 9 seconds. The prize was the 330. A better prize would be the setters. Get the setter and keep it handy. I'm pretty certain I can match the 9 seconds. I'd like to see a video of either one of your guys technique setting by hand.
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
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I've never been able to figure out how to load videos on here. Some day maybe I'll figure it out.
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
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...these 330 are the setters worth the money? You can't afford to not own setters
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
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By hand you with a open hand hook one side of a spring with the inside of your thumb on one hand.Then push down on the same eye on the spring with your other hand untill you can reach the other side withe your stretched out fingers and compress the spring untill you can set the safety in one quick motion.Then do the other spring the same way.
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
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^^^ BINGO! For me setters would be a waste of space, time and money. Would never even consider getting setters. I am 65 and have been setting conibears since I was 18-19 years old. I usually run lines that are about 90% conibears, so that means I'm setting and re-setting 25-30 Belisles a day.
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
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I seen guys at the FHA speed setting competition(timed at setting a bunch of different traps) compress both springs of the 330's at the same time,dont use the safety hooks,just spring the jaws open with a knee and hook the trigger. Mark Downey was good at it.Probably less than 5 seconds per trap.
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
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By hand you with a open hand hook one side of a spring with the inside of your thumb on one hand.Then push down on the same eye on the spring with your other hand untill you can reach the other side withe your stretched out fingers and compress the spring untill you can set the safety in one quick motion.Then do the other spring the same way. It's just a bit tougher to do that when the trap Is full. Work smarter.
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
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These ^^^ X2!
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
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By hand you with a open hand hook one side of a spring with the inside of your thumb on one hand.Then push down on the same eye on the spring with your other hand untill you can reach the other side withe your stretched out fingers and compress the spring untill you can set the safety in one quick motion.Then do the other spring the same way. It's just a bit tougher to do that when the trap Is full. Work smarter. I don't find that to be the case...with a few exceptions. The exceptions account for less than 1% of my catches so I just chalk it up to a trap that was more of a struggle to get a critter out. Still always manage it.
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
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I love the RTS setters I have. Now still trying to come up with a good reset method for the #4 jump traps while standing in waist deep cold water. New sets I start with a jump trap preset at home and wired open.
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
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I love the RTS setters I have. Now still trying to come up with a good reset method for the #4 jump traps while standing in waist deep cold water. New sets I start with a jump trap preset at home and wired open. Dave at One Hand Setters makes a setter for them that works slick. As for conibear setters, RTS are great, I use SC setters as well. Just because to can set them without setters doesn't mean you need to.
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
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It seems that the funny stories are about other folks getting caught in large traps. I have a friend who caught both thumbs in a 330. He drove for help in a stick shift Jeep.
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
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As a young man, I wanted a #120. I took a spring from one #110 and added it to another. Attempting to set it I caught both my thumbs, luckily I was home!
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
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BP - it hurts even thinking of a 220 magnum BMI on the fingers! I fear the 220 most. Even those little magnum 120s bite and won’t let go. Where my fingers and knuckles connect on my left hand still occasionally ache from a particularly vicious 330.
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
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Hand setting (without setters) is great until you run a long line and your hands hurt. The two guys who do “In The Woodshed” videos (northern Wisconsin) talk about that in their videos.
After 30+ years of using the steel scissor type setters I got the Sleepy Creek aluminums. A couple years after that my partner made some locking types. Good stuff!!
Never too old to learn
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
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At the risk of being accused of excessive braggadocio... I do run arguably long lines (25-35 traps) with mostly 330 Belisles and have done so for many many years without feeling my hands hurt (or arms). I truly believe that with proper technique most of us can do that too. I don't carry setters and never have. They would just be more clutter in an already full boat.
OK, I'll shut up now.
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
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Somebody could of taken me to the cleaners on this one.I would have bet the farm that braggadocio wasn’t a real word. You're saying I missed my opportunity?! Dang!
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Re: Is the conibear setters worth it?
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If you buy the bridger self locking setters take the cushion hand grips off and glue them back on.I used flex glue-kind of like a good caulk.They are pretty clumsy and dangerous with the handle sliding all around. I wrap the rubber handles real well with electrical tape. Then paint the setters white so the next coat of fluorescent orange is bright. So far after many years works well.
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