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How do you remove jaws from a longspring… #7576170
05/03/22 10:01 PM
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cast jaws that have no flexibility and will snap upon trying to bend. Im trying to center swivel a trap and take the chain off the longspring. im trying to preserve the chain - else i’d just cut it

Re: How do you remove jaws from a longspring… [Re: jooleyen] #7576181
05/03/22 10:09 PM
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I have used a big C clamp on regular steel jaws. I don't know how they would work on cast jaws.

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Re: How do you remove jaws from a longspring… [Re: jooleyen] #7576224
05/03/22 11:37 PM
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hey not a bad idea. another thing i realized is the jaws are hooked up so severely (newhouse jaws) that I question how they even got them in the frame.

Re: How do you remove jaws from a longspring… [Re: jooleyen] #7576394
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On a lot of the cast jaw traps, you will have to cut the base plate to get the jaws out without breaking them. Then weld the base back together and add a baseplate.

Re: How do you remove jaws from a longspring… [Re: jooleyen] #7576433
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On my cast jawed traps, like victor 3n’s, I cut the clevis (?) holding the chain to the spring. Then I drilled a hole in the frame(slightly off center) and added a j-hook to attach the chain. Center swiveled with only the cost of a j-hook and right size drill bit(assuming one has the drill etc)
Not a 3n but you get the pic

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Re: How do you remove jaws from a longspring… [Re: jooleyen] #7584098
05/14/22 11:49 PM
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I like wide face on the old cast jaws. Most cast jaws, other than 3Ns and 4Ns, can be removed with the trap jaw tool. I have also used brake spring pliers to remove trap jaws. Alot of the old Victors had short jaw tips which helps in getting them out. I bubble tip them after reassembling.

I leave the chain on the spring, but I have bought a couple of long springs that had be converted using the Paws-I-Trip center locator. They crimp on, no cutting, dismantling, or welding required.


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Re: How do you remove jaws from a longspring… [Re: jooleyen] #7584220
05/15/22 08:17 AM
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Cut the main frame if half
remove jaws
weld back together
grind flush on bottom
weld on additional base plate with D ring

I usually cut at about 1/3 point in the stock base
Nothing in way....easy spot to weld / grind

Hope this helps


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Re: How do you remove jaws from a longspring… [Re: jooleyen] #7584352
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Well they got them In without cutting the base plate so the jaws should come out with out cutting the base plate.


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Re: How do you remove jaws from a longspring… [Re: scheide] #7586730
05/19/22 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by scheide
On a lot of the cast jaw traps, you will have to cut the base plate to get the jaws out without breaking them. Then weld the base back together and add a baseplate.




And that class was the correct answer.

Re: How do you remove jaws from a longspring… [Re: jooleyen] #7587381
05/20/22 08:09 AM
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I just did this last night! I compressed my long spring with vise grips, then placed the jaws straight down into a bench vise and tightened it slowly until I was able to get 1 end of the jaw(s) out of the frame, then loosened the vise and you’re golden! To put the jaws back in, I placed them side by side as they would be in a sprung trap and tightened the vise with one end of the jaws already in the frame, when I had them compressed enough to get the other end in the frame I lined the jaw tips up with the holes in the frame and slowly loosened the vise. I’ve also seen C clamp style welders vise grips used with good results. Hope this helps!

Re: How do you remove jaws from a longspring… [Re: CountryCletus] #7587612
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Originally Posted by CountryCletus
I just did this last night! I compressed my long spring with vise grips, then placed the jaws straight down into a bench vise and tightened it slowly until I was able to get 1 end of the jaw(s) out of the frame, then loosened the vise and you’re golden! To put the jaws back in, I placed them side by side as they would be in a sprung trap and tightened the vise with one end of the jaws already in the frame, when I had them compressed enough to get the other end in the frame I lined the jaw tips up with the holes in the frame and slowly loosened the vise. I’ve also seen C clamp style welders vise grips used with good results. Hope this helps!

That works on regular jaws, but cast jaws are a completely different story


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Re: How do you remove jaws from a longspring… [Re: jooleyen] #7587638
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How do they put them together at the factory?

Re: How do you remove jaws from a longspring… [Re: sneaky] #7587747
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Originally Posted by sneaky
Originally Posted by CountryCletus
I just did this last night! I compressed my long spring with vise grips, then placed the jaws straight down into a bench vise and tightened it slowly until I was able to get 1 end of the jaw(s) out of the frame, then loosened the vise and you’re golden! To put the jaws back in, I placed them side by side as they would be in a sprung trap and tightened the vise with one end of the jaws already in the frame, when I had them compressed enough to get the other end in the frame I lined the jaw tips up with the holes in the frame and slowly loosened the vise. I’ve also seen C clamp style welders vise grips used with good results. Hope this helps!

That works on regular jaws, but cast jaws are a completely different story


Have you tried covering the cast jaws in toothpaste and letting them sit for 45-60 minutes before clamping them to remove?

Re: How do you remove jaws from a longspring… [Re: CountryCletus] #7588682
05/22/22 12:17 PM
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