Photo Phriday 47
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06/24/22 09:47 AM
06/24/22 09:47 AM
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Posts: 2,696 Idaho, Lemhi County
Gulo
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"On The Other Hand"
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Joined: Jan 2009
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Idaho, Lemhi County
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It's that time of year again when I spend an inordinate amount of time catching and measuring snakes (2 or 3 hours every day). To me, very fascinating critters. Prairie rattlesnake, Crotalus viridis. Compared to other places, we don't have BIG rattlesnakes. A 4-footer here is monstrous. Bullsnakes, aka Pine snakes, aka gophersnakes, aka Pituophis catenifer are nonvenomous, but can still make you bleed. Racers, Coluber constrictor, are another nonvenomous snake. This is an adult. The only snake we have that looks entirely different than the adults in their first year of life is the racer. This is a youngster.
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Re: Photo Phriday 47
[Re: Gulo]
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06/24/22 12:50 PM
06/24/22 12:50 PM
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Jurassic Park
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I’m very thankful I don’t have to deal with snakes around here. Mosquitoes and poison ivy are the problems of summer lol.
Cold as ice!
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Re: Photo Phriday 47
[Re: Grandpa Trapper]
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06/24/22 07:28 PM
06/24/22 07:28 PM
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Posts: 2,696 Idaho, Lemhi County
Gulo
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Idaho, Lemhi County
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Gulo, what is the difference between a prairie rattlesnake and a western rattlesnake. I heard prairies are only found in Lemhi County in Idaho. Grandpa - The systematics of most all western snakes, rattlesnakes in particular, is in a great state of flux. Talk with ten different herpetologists, and you'll probably get ten different answers. Most "experts" now agree that Idaho has two different rattlesnakes; the prairie (Crotalus viridis) in Lemhi and Custer Counties only. Down in your country, as well as the rest of the state, has Pacific rattlesnakes (Crotalus oreganus). The real expert in the genus, Lowell Diller, unfortunately, passed away a few years back. He thought that there were actually three rattlesnakes, the prairie (Crotalus viridis), the northern Pacific (Crotalus oreganus), and the Great Basin Rattlesnake (Crotalus lutosus). I am personally a lumper, and I say they should all be C. viridis, with perhaps some subspecies (not full species), as they all seem to interbreed and produce fertile offspring. Who knows for real. They'll be changing the names forever, I suspect. Jack
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Re: Photo Phriday 47
[Re: Gulo]
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06/24/22 08:48 PM
06/24/22 08:48 PM
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Posts: 4,942 Idaho Falls, ID
Grandpa Trapper
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Gulo, what is the difference between a prairie rattlesnake and a western rattlesnake. I heard prairies are only found in Lemhi County in Idaho. Grandpa - The systematics of most all western snakes, rattlesnakes in particular, is in a great state of flux. Talk with ten different herpetologists, and you'll probably get ten different answers. Most "experts" now agree that Idaho has two different rattlesnakes; the prairie (Crotalus viridis) in Lemhi and Custer Counties only. Down in your country, as well as the rest of the state, has Pacific rattlesnakes (Crotalus oreganus). The real expert in the genus, Lowell Diller, unfortunately, passed away a few years back. He thought that there were actually three rattlesnakes, the prairie (Crotalus viridis), the northern Pacific (Crotalus oreganus), and the Great Basin Rattlesnake (Crotalus lutosus). I am personally a lumper, and I say they should all be C. viridis, with perhaps some subspecies (not full species), as they all seem to interbreed and produce fertile offspring. Who knows for real. They'll be changing the names forever, I suspect. Jack Interesting
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Re: Photo Phriday 47
[Re: Wanna Be]
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06/24/22 10:06 PM
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Scout1
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Saw this beauty the other day and helped him get out of traffic. It was a tough decision to have a belt made or help him. The belt maker I called had over 300 ahead of me, so it got a pass. Prettiest snake in my opinion!
------------------------------------- DJT & MTG in 2024!
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