Lure and Bait Making


No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers *** No Politics

Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum~ Fermenter's Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~

Southern Snares
Please support our sponsor for the Lure and Bait makers forum - Southern Snares


Print Thread
Hop To
Making trout oil #6952258
08/02/20 11:50 PM
08/02/20 11:50 PM
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,162
Idaho
B
bearcat2 Offline OP
trapper
bearcat2  Offline OP
trapper
B

Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,162
Idaho
I haven't made fish oil since I was a kid. And back then I just chopped up whatever fish I caught and tossed all species in together. Decided to make some trout oil with some soft, late summer, warm water trout caught last year. I chopped up enough to 2/3 fill two gallon glass jars back in the end of April and set them out in the sun. They have only developed less than 1/4" of very dark oil on top since then. I have read that trout makes a nice light oil, but this stuff is a dark brown and although I haven't opened them up and messed with it, it appears thick. I remember getting a lot more oil than this out of a mixed bag of trout, bullheads, sunfish, etc. when I was a kid. Not sure what I could have done wrong, but this sure isn't what I was expecting.

Re: Making trout oil [Re: bearcat2] #6952263
08/02/20 11:58 PM
08/02/20 11:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 7,135
Marion Kansas
Y
Yes sir Offline
trapper
Yes sir  Offline
trapper
Y

Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 7,135
Marion Kansas
No help here but I'll be following along. I got 35 gallons of catfish brewing and more coming.

Re: Making trout oil [Re: bearcat2] #6952396
08/03/20 08:21 AM
08/03/20 08:21 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 5,539
SW Pa
B
Bob Jameson Offline
trapper
Bob Jameson  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 5,539
SW Pa
You can get light colored to dark colored oil from trout. Some batches of the first released oil can be very golden in color. Most we make is all dark and very thick.

You wont get a lot of oil from a gal of trout parts or less. We can draw a quart of oil or more from a well worked 5 gal bucket of trout. It does vary, it really depends upon the how well and thorough the parts have broken down.

The amount of overall fat contained in the fish is where the oil is derived. Whole gutted chopped up fish give the most oil. Remnant parts only won't yield as much oil compared to bulk whole fish.

Re: Making trout oil [Re: bearcat2] #6952760
08/03/20 04:25 PM
08/03/20 04:25 PM
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,162
Idaho
B
bearcat2 Offline OP
trapper
bearcat2  Offline OP
trapper
B

Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,162
Idaho
I used whole fish, gutted and chopped into 1-2 inch chunks. I'll go ahead and leave them on through the summer, but yeah this stuff is dark and thick, and there isn't much of it.

Re: Making trout oil [Re: bearcat2] #6953471
08/04/20 03:31 AM
08/04/20 03:31 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 24,919
williamsburg ks
D
danny clifton Offline
"Grumpy Old Man"
danny clifton  Offline
"Grumpy Old Man"
D

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 24,919
williamsburg ks
flat head catfish and spoonbills both have big gobs of fat in their abdomen. At least some of them do. render oil out of that fat. i have not found anything that comes close to effectiveness


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Making trout oil [Re: bearcat2] #6958520
08/08/20 09:43 PM
08/08/20 09:43 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 6,034
10714 Apple road Carthage,Mo6...
C
Cletis Richards Offline
trapper
Cletis Richards  Offline
trapper
C

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 6,034
10714 Apple road Carthage,Mo6...
internal fat renders a high percentage


Appleroad Predator Bait

www.appleroadlures.com

Like us on Facebook

Re: Making trout oil [Re: bearcat2] #7566562
04/22/22 04:37 PM
04/22/22 04:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 11
Texas
D
DT63 Offline
trapper
DT63  Offline
trapper
D

Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 11
Texas
curious if anyone has tried striper fish to render oil. There is a deep red slab of fat that runs along the sides of the fish that is really oily. BTW, if you purchase trout it is more than likely farm raised which has far less fat than wild fish - same for salmon. Their natural diet is what gives them high ft content and farm raised fish are feed fish cakes/pellets.

Last edited by DT63; 04/22/22 04:38 PM.
Re: Making trout oil [Re: bearcat2] #7566635
04/22/22 05:39 PM
04/22/22 05:39 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 5,539
SW Pa
B
Bob Jameson Offline
trapper
Bob Jameson  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 5,539
SW Pa
I have never worked with or rendered stripers. I know there are some lakes in Pa. that have some stocked striper fish. Some I hear get quite big. They however aren't readily available on demand like the Trout. I would get some stripers and see how it works out with your oil development.

I have to disagree with which fish have higher fat content. Wild or Farm raised. The farm raised trout that we get are well fed and produce good oil. The larger fish 5# to 8# have very good fatty bellies These fish are raised in spillways with very little exercise due to limited space.

Most operations the fish are fed with auto feeders and also the fish become conditioned to "on demand feeding" at many hatcheries.

The more you eat and the less you expend in energy produces weight gain both in fat and tissue growth. I see the hatcheries firsthand and what takes place. Some of these fish can grow an inch in 30 days with the right diet.

Re: Making trout oil [Re: Bob Jameson] #7572618
04/29/22 12:17 PM
04/29/22 12:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 11
Texas
D
DT63 Offline
trapper
DT63  Offline
trapper
D

Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 11
Texas
I believe the diet of salmon and trout that feed on shellfish and mussels, etc., just have a better "more favorable" fat? I know when I used natural fish trimmings in the past, it smell was considerably louder. I have purchased a lot of fish oil lately and have been under impressed with what I received (but that could be a dilution result?). I tried to make some with farm raised trout and it was not like what I did years ago when I had access to lots of natural fish (I had a taxidermy business in MT for many years).

Re: Making trout oil [Re: bearcat2] #7573378
04/30/22 09:56 AM
04/30/22 09:56 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 5,539
SW Pa
B
Bob Jameson Offline
trapper
Bob Jameson  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 5,539
SW Pa
Most of us don't have access to quantities of wild run caught fish unless you are near coastal waters, commercial fished rivers or great lake waters. Most all inland waters are all stocked with hatchery fish. All the fish I have caught and cleaned all smell fishy to me. If we had different diet fish side by side to compare odors that would be interesting to evaluate. I do think that would be a difficult call overall. Speaking of comparing the same specie side by side.

I do know they all smell quite bad when they are rendering down. We get flies in endless numbers that keep coming all summer thru the rendering months. In the end they all smell the same to me.

There is some good sun rendered fish oil out there, but you need to look for it and find what you want. Some may alter the pure oil before retail sale in some manner that affects its original odor.

Good fish oil will stay with you if you get it on you. Good sun rendered fish oil odor is nothing like pressed fish oils. Speaking of the devil, I spent the afternoon bottling some raw oil and I smell quite fishy at the moment. smile

Re: Making trout oil [Re: Bob Jameson] #7613274
06/26/22 04:14 PM
06/26/22 04:14 PM
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 141
Mesa,Washington.
M
Mark McCary Offline
trapper
Mark McCary  Offline
trapper
M

Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 141
Mesa,Washington.
Is it necessary to add a preservative to home made sun rendered Fish Oil? Purchased fish oil stays fresh for a long time! Maybe it comes with preservative all ready added?

Re: Making trout oil [Re: bearcat2] #7613334
06/26/22 05:32 PM
06/26/22 05:32 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 5,539
SW Pa
B
Bob Jameson Offline
trapper
Bob Jameson  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 5,539
SW Pa
There is no need to add any preservative to good clean sun rendered oil. I am speaking of the oil, not the sludge or juice that forms when the fish renders down.

If the oil is pure and processed properly it will last indefinitely.

Re: Making trout oil [Re: Bob Jameson] #7613451
06/26/22 07:13 PM
06/26/22 07:13 PM
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 141
Mesa,Washington.
M
Mark McCary Offline
trapper
Mark McCary  Offline
trapper
M

Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 141
Mesa,Washington.
Thank You Bob!!!

Re: Making trout oil [Re: bearcat2] #7616902
07/01/22 10:14 AM
07/01/22 10:14 AM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 6,527
Manitoba
N
Northof50 Offline
trapper
Northof50  Offline
trapper
N

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 6,527
Manitoba
i have some oil that is 15 years old and works just fine.
It is like whiskey when it is aged

Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

Moderated by  tmrschessie, Wolfdog91 

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1