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Re: New electric pickups [Re: Gary Benson] #7626259
07/14/22 07:25 AM
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I would love to be able to drive an EV. I just can't justify owning 3 cars for our two person family. There are times when we both need to cover over 400 miles in a day and stay on a schedule. No way that happens with an EV here, particularly, during 5 months of cold weather.


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Re: New electric pickups [Re: Scott__aR] #7626262
07/14/22 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Scott__aR
Will it go down backwoods, 2 track trails with 24" deep water and freezing temperatures without shorting out the batteries?

Ahh...Nope


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Re: New electric pickups [Re: Gary Benson] #7626265
07/14/22 07:36 AM
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we will all be driving them eventually-ya we'll be cleaner in some ways and save some fuel costs but then our wonderful governments and yours will jack up the hydro and we will all lose once again. Not too sure that we ever be fully electric.If you are highway driving get ready to sit and recharge-longer to get to the lake etc..Meh-Hybrid to me sounds wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better than fully electric

Re: New electric pickups [Re: MB Coonguy] #7626345
07/14/22 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by MB Coonguy
we will all be driving them eventually-ya we'll be cleaner in some ways and save some fuel costs but ................

If everyone gets one (or 2 (or 3)) to replace what we are now accustomed to, the environment will suffer way, Way, WAY more than it would with fossil fuels. That FACT has yet to be dispelled.

Re: New electric pickups [Re: Gary Benson] #7626370
07/14/22 10:43 AM
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They are poisoning the water hole on combustion engines and trying to hide it until it is too late. Direct injection pros and cons.

It is long and has a lot of tech stuff but well worth it if considering a car or truck with direct injection.


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“A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both.”

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Re: New electric pickups [Re: Gary Benson] #7626382
07/14/22 10:56 AM
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I was talking with some parks department employees their entire fleet of F150s went CNG

they start and run like regular trucks , they may not have quite the power HP

but they run very clean , very clean , quiet , and go 10K on an oil change because there is so much less leftover to the combustion.

the pipe brings NG in they have a compressor that runs on site and they fuel up trucks , no "gas" disappears from the pump and they don't have to order tankers to bring in fuel like they used to
they still have some gas and mostly diesel at the pumps
very minimal price fluctuations

around here we have NG pipelines for heat nearly everywhere , people drive more when it isn't snow covered so what was capacity for winter cold can be capacity for summer driving

heck if you did some decent rust proofing on CNG vehicles you might be driving the majority of them for 20 years and wouldn't that be a huge environmental savings right there.


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Re: New electric pickups [Re: Gary Benson] #7626409
07/14/22 11:30 AM
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Been around and have worked on some LP and NG fueled engines. They are no doubt much cleaner. The gasoline engines are the ones being built more though. Direct injection has been called the holy grail as they can increase the HP and get great mileage but at a price.

Because direct injection delivers a concentrated amount of gas, less fuel is wasted, which saves money at the pump and is good for the environment. There’s a downside, though. A side effect of this high pressure stream of fuel is overspray lands on the intake valve and ports. Once that overspray heats up, it becomes thick and gummy. They need cleaned to maintain this gain. Some as often as every 75,000. Cost for that can be anywhere from $400 to $1200. Blasting with black walnut hulls is one method.


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Re: New electric pickups [Re: Gary Benson] #7626450
07/14/22 12:23 PM
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I know one guy that will never have one! cool

Some day it might happen, but it's A long ways off for complete switchover. We just don't have the infrastructure to supply electric for normal usage, let alone charging vehicles.

Re: New electric pickups [Re: Crowfoot] #7626460
07/14/22 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Crowfoot
Originally Posted by MB Coonguy
we will all be driving them eventually-ya we'll be cleaner in some ways and save some fuel costs but ................

If everyone gets one (or 2 (or 3)) to replace what we are now accustomed to, the environment will suffer way, Way, WAY more than it would with fossil fuels. That FACT has yet to be dispelled.


Oh am sure they will be dispelled, but our governments always have "other" agendas that we will discover after the fact-which they will of course deny-will be interesting how jets are going to fly without fossil fuels

Re: New electric pickups [Re: Gary Benson] #7626480
07/14/22 12:48 PM
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As I said before. Before I buy a electric vechile, I'll buy a donkey and name it Brandon. I have no use for one of those external coal powered combustion engines in my life. Electrickery is great for things like toasters, lights and even chairs. But not trucks or any other vechile for that matter. By the way, when is construction going to start on the 500.000 charging stations that sniffy and his clowns have promised to build. Are the all going to be run on wind power, empty promises and hot air ??


Let's go Brandon

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Re: New electric pickups [Re: Drifter] #7626507
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Originally Posted by Drifter
Been around and have worked on some LP and NG fueled engines. They are no doubt much cleaner. The gasoline engines are the ones being built more though. Direct injection has been called the holy grail as they can increase the HP and get great mileage but at a price.

Because direct injection delivers a concentrated amount of gas, less fuel is wasted, which saves money at the pump and is good for the environment. There’s a downside, though. A side effect of this high pressure stream of fuel is overspray lands on the intake valve and ports. Once that overspray heats up, it becomes thick and gummy. They need cleaned to maintain this gain. Some as often as every 75,000. Cost for that can be anywhere from $400 to $1200. Blasting with black walnut hulls is one method.


if you could make it modular enough to keep it around 500-600 that could work , the labor of pulling it is going to be the killer


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Re: New electric pickups [Re: Gary Benson] #7626577
07/14/22 02:13 PM
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The cities would be a good place for EVs, let the rural folks decide for themselves.


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Re: New electric pickups [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7626662
07/14/22 04:19 PM
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Maintenance on older vehicles by the time you add on change timing belts and now internal engine cleaning may well end the market as not being economical.Pretty much poisoning the water hole on them.


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