Best reasoning i have heard for not buying an electric vehicle was put like this,
You go buy the best laptop or phone on the market today and what is it worth in five years? Why , because in 5 years the technology is so far superior to what you bought nobody wants it because it doesn't work or is not compatible with the new technology. Electric cars are like any other piece of computer technology. By the time you pay it off and for the new computer updates it would need along with the batteries and other maintenance. You'll have almost paid half another new one that is the new technology and start again.

The f150 electric get about 150 miles towing well its 166 from Reno to Winnemucca and the only towns in between are Fernley (30 miles from Reno) and Lovelock which doesn't have a charging station.. Not practical out west when the distances start to open up.

or any where in the northern US where the mileage drops off when cold

Keep digging jp. A lot of people are rolling their eyes at you now because you really are clueless on this subject.

But keep posting.

Keep saying that. Hoping to drag others in to bash me so you can sit there and giggle.

I like that, and is probably true! Noticed that with our laptop and cell phones.

I think the price of vehicles over the last several years has been intentionally bloated just to make the transition to duly expensive electrics seem less of a shock.
Trick of the trade.
The price of gas was raised intentionally too ... for the same reasons.
It took a loooong time before the common man could have a car. A jalopy, Ford T, VW bug, Likely used.
Same thing will happen again. (maybe, if we're lucky enough to be able to have one)
All in the plan, Trump just wasn't on board with it. Neither was I

No, I am being honest with you jp. You are clueless to American current events. I explain them to you then you go to personal finances and being subtly insulting to those people who can't afford it now when before they could.

America went from the best of times in decades to the worst of times in decades in less than two years.

The president blames big "whatever" for increases in prices and "gouging" people. The price of gas and wages has went up exponentially so, as a business, business prices have to go up also. Business can explain why they went up on prices or why they went out of business.

Either way, shipping has had a dramatic effect on prices of everything in the US.

So instead of changing leadership and pointing out the obvious you say we should stop complaining, accept prices are going to go up painfully and work harder to try to get back to the wages we had less than two years ago.

There are other countries in history that have done that to their populations. it usually didn't end well.

Thanks Bowhunter,

That would be a kick in the nada to have to pay to dispose of your junk vehicle.

I can believe that SOMEDAY in the future after a long period of transition that we'll see alot more electric vehicles, but them trying to do it now without near enough infrastructure to even think Bout it is ludicrous.

I refuse. I flat out refuse.

The cost isn't just in the buying. Anyone should know that.

It is a string of extra fees, and costs outside the dumb electric car, that takes a slew of oil , gas and lithium mined, to make each one.

The so called charging stations, at one's home and in anyplace, gas is so handy. Lots of expenses besides the car.

I've not seen one out here . Not one station. Doesn't matter to me anyway.

Real working people laugh at this Marxist concept . Hauling heavy equipment, horses, transport, those dumb electric cars, everything is done the right way. The powerful way.

Where in tarnation does electric come from ? In anything ?

There's the question/answer that the Fascists don't want asked.

NONE of those countries are doing this. Every one of them are building more oil plants and going full steam ahead using the ones they have. Meantime, cashing in on partnering up with countries who have the lithium, gas and oil to export , buying up and owning the mines that will bring them untold power over the others who fall for this deception.

It never has been about the environment. Like BLM, that is all just a surface distraction from the undercurrent below.

First thing he does is uses the psychological thing of shutting the pipeline down, as it has been said before what company would invest in a refinery or oil lines knowing some idiot can shut them down with the scroll of a pen ? Now instead of trying to correct his first mistake he goes off and offers the oil tycoons who knows what and we are back to sending more dollars to the desert for them to finance their wars against us. Drain our reserves to others around the world and even if the pipeline wouldn't fill all our needs, psychology means a lot in investing and the markets or even how the average consumer feels when he gets up in the morning !

I think Tesla batteries are supposed to, in theory, last for a million miles. I'm a bit skeptical

Me too
@ 300 miles to a charge, that's over 3000 charge cycles.

You must be driving Chrysler products. My F-150s go twice that far, the last three I sold at 275-300 and they went another 50k plus.

My apologies bowhunter. The title of this thread and the layout you gave in your opening post had me thinking it was about the affordability and approval of a car loan.

I’ll make sure to learn all about presidencies and politics before I make an appointment for the next car loan.

This plus offers leases for sale that the Mineral mgnt and oil companies had no indication of oil from previous geophysical reports. This is pure and simple bs.

I was in Fargo the other day at a Casey's where they have six charging stations. There were 4 Tesla cars charging while the owners were in the coffee shop. One of them had Virginia plates. Gotta wonder how long it takes you to go across the country at that rate. Imagine if you pulled in and all six of them were taken! How long would you be there? 3-4 hours or more? I hate waiting even 15 minutes at a gas pump.

I certainly think there is certainly a place for these cars and it's inevitable. But they are not for everyone, or every use that's for sure.

Now you're using your head. Good job!!

Its not just the cold on the battery efficiency its no heat generated to stop ice build up on the front end defrost windows etc. But try driving from Reno to Vegas in July at 110 plus and cant use air because you won't make the next charging station. And the 150 miles the f150 got was flat land in the midwest not the mountains. There are little towns everywhere back east not so in the west . Bet you can't drive for 2 hours anywhere East of the Mississippi and not pass a town let alone lots of cars, come drive hwy 50 or nv 95 north or lots of places in Oregon Idaho

Just saw this

https://www.foxbusiness.com/technol...m-replacement-battery-costs-more-vehicle

Yep lets go green lol

One fellow that works in the mine with my son has a tesla electric car.he has had it for a number of years now,and uses it in winter and summer.
last year he drove out to the west coast and back-no problems with the car or travelling.
He had to put on a new set of tires so far.