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Urine - Winter Versus Other #7631048 07/20/22 11:57 AM 07/20/22 11:57 AM
Joined: Dec 2010 Georgia sportsman94 OP trapper
sportsman94 OP trapper Joined: Dec 2010 Georgia	If you had a coyote or red fox penned and were collecting urine, what causes a difference in the quality of urine in winter versus other times of the year? In the wild I would guess it would be food, but if you are in control of what they eat then is there really a big difference? Water intake in the heat causing it to dilute? Smaller appetite in the summer? I see everyone talk about winter collected urine being the premium product and am just curious why

Re: Urine - Winter Versus Other [Re: sportsman94] #7631891 07/21/22 05:52 PM 07/21/22 05:52 PM
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Northernbeaver trapper Joined: Oct 2021 Minnesota	He who can not be named always said it goes rancid if it's not winter fed. The official Trapping Across the World Discord server. https://discord.gg/AsdrzB5XgE

Re: Urine - Winter Versus Other [Re: sportsman94] #7631928 07/21/22 06:39 PM 07/21/22 06:39 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Wisconsin T The Beav trapper
The Beav trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Wisconsin	Do you think these urine sellers only collect urine In the winter. Many years ago I was delivering some fox to a fox rancher In Indiana and at that time he was collecting urine. And that was sometime In July. The forum Know It All according to Muskrat

Re: Urine - Winter Versus Other [Re: sportsman94] #7631962 07/21/22 08:04 PM 07/21/22 08:04 PM
Joined: Dec 2010 Georgia sportsman94 OP trapper
sportsman94 OP trapper Joined: Dec 2010 Georgia	Beav, that’s kind of what I was thinking without any evidence to back it up. It didn’t make sense for there to be THAT big of a difference. But I’ve never tested the theory and didn’t know enough about it to know one way or another. Thanks for the reply

Re: Urine - Winter Versus Other [Re: The Beav] #7632374 07/22/22 01:24 PM 07/22/22 01:24 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Central Ohio LT GREY trapper
LT GREY trapper Joined: Apr 2007 Central Ohio	Originally Posted by The Beav Do you think these urine sellers only collect urine In the winter. Many years ago I was delivering some fox to a fox rancher In Indiana and at that time he was collecting urine. And that was sometime In July. People who collect urine to sell, (wholesale or otherwise) normally, in my experience, collect every drop they can, regardless of the time of year. Urine can be 'fresh frozen', after all and that is how I have always handled mine. "Winter urine" as it was called, is stronger to some degree because many animals ( and I take it we are talking about foxes and coyotes), come 'heat' or 'in the rut' during the winter months. Foxes, in particular, take on an almost 'skunky smell'. I HAVE AT TIMES, ADDED A DROP OF ESSENSE TO A PINT OF CANINE URINE DURING THE WINTER MONTHS. Canines communicate with the use of their urine all year long. How good urine is, is how it is handled, IMO. Bateria in the heat will make it rancid and do it quickly !

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