Re: New scope
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07/24/22 01:05 PM
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The Ruger American is a fine platform.........for what it was intended for. What you have recently purchased is a fine 400 yard and under deer/antelope, etc rifle. 1000 yard coyote ??? Not so much. Even between 400 yards and 600 yards a WHOOOOOOOOOLE lot of trajectory/drift/mirage difficulties arise when it comes to hitting small targets. Another 400 yards beyond that complicates things IMMENSELY.
Putting a $1K - $3K scope on a $500 rifle won't make it a 1000 yard varminter.
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Re: New scope
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07/24/22 01:21 PM
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The Ruger American is a fine platform.........for what it was intended for. What you have recently purchased is a fine 400 yard and under deer/antelope, etc rifle. 1000 yard coyote ??? Not so much. Even between 400 yards and 600 yards a WHOOOOOOOOOLE lot of trajectory/drift/mirage difficulties arise when it comes to hitting small targets. Another 400 yards beyond that complicates things IMMENSELY.
Putting a $1K - $3K scope on a $500 rifle won't make it a 1000 yard varminter. Curious why you think that? I happen to know of a gentleman that put a NightForce scope on this exact gun and can ring the bell at 1000yds. He bought it just to “plink” with, plus he has more money than sense, lol. Also hitting out there with a .308, 7mm, and .300. He hunts but just likes to plink more than anything. What’s funny is he’ll tell you straight up he doesn’t shoot anything alive past 300 yards.
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Re: New scope
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07/24/22 01:28 PM
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The Ruger American is a fine platform.........for what it was intended for. What you have recently purchased is a fine 400 yard and under deer/antelope, etc rifle. 1000 yard coyote ??? Not so much. Even between 400 yards and 600 yards a WHOOOOOOOOOLE lot of trajectory/drift/mirage difficulties arise when it comes to hitting small targets. Another 400 yards beyond that complicates things IMMENSELY.
Putting a $1K - $3K scope on a $500 rifle won't make it a 1000 yard varminter. Curious why you think that? I happen to know of a gentleman that put a NightForce scope on this exact gun and can ring the bell at 1000yds. He bought it just to “plink” with, plus he has more money than sense, lol. Also hitting out there with a .308, 7mm, and .300. He hunts but just likes to plink more than anything. What’s funny is he’ll tell you straight up he doesn’t shoot anything alive past 300 yards. How big is the bell he's ringing? Most factory guns would be shooting minute of coyote plus at 1k.  Anyhow, Night force makes an excellent scope. I'd recommend them also if money is no object.
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Re: New scope
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07/24/22 01:39 PM
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I hear ya, pretty good shooting at that for what he has.
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Re: New scope
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07/24/22 01:49 PM
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How big is the bell he's ringing? Most factory guns would be shooting minute of coyote plus at 1k.  That was my next question, too. LOL !!! I'm definitely not down-talking anyone's rifle. My daughter's first rifle was a Ruger American in .308 Win with a Burris 3-9x40. It is a good rifle. I'm no 1000 yard marksman, either. But I've played around at distance (along with some other pretty serious shooters) on many occasions. We all use highly accurized guns. But no race guns or heavy barrels. All sporter weight rifles in flat shooting chamberings. We shoot at an 8" round A514 (T1 armor plate gong. In my experience 500-600 yards is where the chaff gets separated from the grain.
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Re: New scope
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07/24/22 02:21 PM
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I have a friend that does the same with a 6.5 but not on a Ruger American. My son-in-law rang the bell last weekend (8”x8”)plate at 495 yards with his 30-30 , just for fun . That’s most of what I will be doing , I’ve killed a coyote at 760 yards with a .243 ( with a witness) lol . I want a heavier bullet for windy days . Now that’s some impressive shooting with a 30-30!! I’d love to know the holdover on that, lol!
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Re: New scope
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07/24/22 03:09 PM
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I's go with a 4-12 x 40 Leupold. They make a Creedmore version but I like a B&C reticle. BDC's don't work at 1K
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Re: New scope
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07/24/22 03:11 PM
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I have a friend that does the same with a 6.5 but not on a Ruger American. My son-in-law rang the bell last weekend (8”x8”)plate at 495 yards with his 30-30 , just for fun . That’s most of what I will be doing , I’ve killed a coyote at 760 yards with a .243 ( with a witness) lol . I want a heavier bullet for windy days . Now that’s some impressive shooting with a 30-30!! I’d love to know the holdover on that, lol! Always read how someone hit something X amount of yds away but never hear how many shots it took. 1out 5 or 10 or a 100 or a 1000? Misses count too.
Last edited by Yes sir; 07/24/22 03:12 PM.
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Re: New scope
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07/24/22 03:39 PM
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Like most have said here, to consistently hit a coyote at 1k yards an off the shelf ruger American isn’t gonna cut it, no matter the caliber or scope choice. Even if you are a competition shooter, shooting from a bench, on a dead calm day, with a custom hand load, the tolerances on a production rifle like that are generally not tight enough to perform like that. I took my brothers AR15 in .223 with a 3x holographic sight and hit a gong many times at 800 yards, but I missed about as many times as I hit it. When I’m shooting at an animal I’m only shooting past 300 if it’s the buck of a lifetime and I know I can’t get any closer. Any further than 400 and I’m finding a way to get closer no matter what the animal is. Too much can happen in the time between a trigger pull and the bullet hitting the target out past 400 for me to be confident in that shot
I am partial to vortex optics myself, i have a 6-24x50 on my 6.5 and in my opinion you can’t get a better bang for your buck.
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Re: New scope
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07/24/22 05:17 PM
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This is what works for me ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/8Iqyh29.jpg) you can see 2 turnkey custom rifles, along with the support system, a windmeter, a rangefinder, a handhelp computer that has all my load data stored in it. once I make my adjustments, I expect bullet impact to be within 1/2 moa at whatever the range. These setups are not cheap, but in order to do what I do, I feel it is money well spent. This group is 3 shots at a lazered 752 yarrds. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/x7as2zg.jpg) this kind of practice and investments allows this to happen, this was the second shot taken at this deer, the first was a spotter shot to be sure I had correctly figured the drop and windage. this is one of 7 I have taken beyond 1000 yards. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/K9IYfh7.jpg)
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