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Re: So found a Ruger MKll buuuuttt [Re: Wolfdog91] #7640604
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I have one exactly like that, paid 225 for it brand new with a holster, 2 extra magazines, magazine pouch, but that was 18 years ago. Offer 150, as long as the barrel is good on the inside and chamber.


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Re: So found a Ruger MKll buuuuttt [Re: Wolfdog91] #7640608
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probably harder to negotiate price when your not laying down jacksons on the counter to cover it all right then

how did the car go what did they determine it was?


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Re: So found a Ruger MKll buuuuttt [Re: Wolfdog91] #7640751
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My user guns that are blued look rougher than that, there is a reason I prefer stainless. wink My Mk II still looks prestine, but then I've never packed it hardly at all, fired probably a thousand rounds through it, but I can't hit with it, so it resides on my wife's nightstand and she can hit fine with it but hardly ever shoots it.

Re: So found a Ruger MKll buuuuttt [Re: Wolfdog91] #7640850
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Everybody has different standards about guns.
Right now, you can buy a brand new Mark IV for $360.
Not every iteration, but a couple are available at that price.
So to me, that condition and price did not say go ahead.
Then again it depends upon how badly a guy wants a Mark II and that iteration.
Everything else is relative depending upon other guns owned, their condition, and ability to shoot them well.
Personally I highly value having around a Ruger .22 that shoots center of center.


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Re: So found a Ruger MKll buuuuttt [Re: Willy Firewood] #7640863
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Originally Posted by Willy Firewood
Everybody has different standards about guns.
Right now, you can buy a brand new Mark IV for $360.
Not every iteration, but a couple are available at that price.
So to me, that condition and price did not say go ahead.
Then again it depends upon how badly a guy wants a Mark II and that iteration.
Everything else is relative depending upon other guns owned, their condition, and ability to shoot them well.
Personally I highly value having around a Ruger .22 that shoots center of center.


I would pay more for a used mark 2 than a new mark 3 or 4. The mark 2 has a much nicer trigger is heavier and every one I hav shot shoots much better groups than the newer models.

Infact I have paid more for my most recent about 5 months back for a used mark 2 than any of the mark 4s I have seen on the shelf. I paid $600 for it gladly. Of course it was in New unfired condition for a government target model. I wouldn't take 2 new mark 4's for it and it's no longer unfired .

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Re: So found a Ruger MKll buuuuttt [Re: Wolfdog91] #7640865
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you can fix the MKIII trigger for about 10 dollars the MKII hammer bushings take up the space that the Magazine disconnect wastes then you are running a MKII trigger setup


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Re: So found a Ruger MKll buuuuttt [Re: Wolfdog91] #7640870
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Good call on the purchase Wolfy. Make sure to post the smile you can't wipe off your face right after you shoot a bunch of times and hit what you're shooting at. I have never shot one which wasn't a tack driver as far as 22 pistols go.

Re: So found a Ruger MKll buuuuttt [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7640960
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
you can fix the MKIII trigger for about 10 dollars the MKII hammer bushings take up the space that the Magazine disconnect wastes then you are running a MKII trigger setup


Maybe but, 1 a gun should go up in quality and not need pieces from older guns to "fix" them and 2 the one I shot were no where near as accurate as a mark 2 either. Not as poor as a sig or wathef .22 but not nearly as nice as Mark 2. Infact years in the future when I inherit dad's I will sell it or give it away to family. The mark 3s were such a let down for me. I was very excited when they came out with the threaded uppers. Then dad and a cousin bought one and they both sucked.

Re: So found a Ruger MKll buuuuttt [Re: Wolfdog91] #7640965
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The Mk III and IVs also will not fire without a magazine. That is pretty much a no go for me, if I was to lose the magazine I want to be able to load a shell in the chamber and pull the trigger. Some Marlin rifles are the same way, friend and his dad each had one, and when they got worn they wouldn't register they had a magazine in them all the time, you had to press up on the magazine while pulling the trigger to be sure it would fire.

Re: So found a Ruger MKll buuuuttt [Re: Providence Farm] #7641084
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Infact I have paid more for my most recent about 5 months back for a used mark 2 than any of the mark 4s I have seen on the shelf. I paid $600 for it gladly. Of course it was in New unfired condition for a government target model. I wouldn't take 2 new mark 4's for it and it's no longer unfired


You got off lucky. I watched the same gun......some commemorative piece.....sell on Gone Broker last year for over $6,000. Just a new in the box Government model.

My interest in these started back in the 70's.........article in Outdoor Life on Bill Ruger and his 22 pistol...........them mentioned it was the gun of choice for a lot of trappers (short barrel). Touted as being simple to make (barrel and some stamped sheet metal), reliable and as accurate as they came.

Took me a while to get there, but eventually wound up with a Government model myself. More by default than choice. Fantastic piece.

Wolfie has a knack for reviving these type of finds......so should do OK, and if a better one comes along, do an upgrade. Gotta start somewhere.

Re: So found a Ruger MKll buuuuttt [Re: Wolfdog91] #7641243
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I have a gov't model, bull barrel . bought it moons ago from Dutch Elsasser for 2 bills. Been a very good gun so I'd recommend buying one.

Take brillo pad to it and that rust will disappear. Litely!

Re: So found a Ruger MKll buuuuttt [Re: Wolfdog91] #7641279
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Hydro dip it!


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Re: So found a Ruger MKll buuuuttt [Re: Wolfdog91] #7641294
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tape off the controls and sights and rattle can it that bright pink that you made the rod holders , that way when you drop it in the water you can see it and none of your buddies will ask to borrow it , a flap holster to carry it coon hunting to keep your hands free.


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Re: So found a Ruger MKll buuuuttt [Re: Wolfdog91] #7641478
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Well since this lit legit the first one of these I've seen in close to three years I pull d the trigger and put a little down payment on it.


You'll love that pistol, doesn't look rough to me, just honest wear. At $200 you won't be out any money if you ever decide to sell it, they don't make that one anymore, it's better than the newer versions.

Re: So found a Ruger MKll buuuuttt [Re: Providence Farm] #7641498
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
you can fix the MKIII trigger for about 10 dollars the MKII hammer bushings take up the space that the Magazine disconnect wastes then you are running a MKII trigger setup


Maybe but, 1 a gun should go up in quality and not need pieces from older guns to "fix" them and 2 the one I shot were no where near as accurate as a mark 2 either. Not as poor as a sig or wathef .22 but not nearly as nice as Mark 2. Infact years in the future when I inherit dad's I will sell it or give it away to family. The mark 3s were such a let down for me. I was very excited when they came out with the threaded uppers. Then dad and a cousin bought one and they both sucked.

the Lawyers got to a bunch of Ruger Products , they tried to please California it is a large market of 35 million people.

later about 2014 they found they could make the gun we all wanted if they called it the PRO and sold it in free states like the LC9s PRO no mag disconnect striker fired and they did that with some models.

the magazine disconnect rides on the trigger pin and if the magazine isn't in it blocks the trigger so it all drags on the trigger.
the holes , pins and placement is all the same so your just putting the MKII trigger into the MKIII pistol if you look at it you could pay to have the MKII drilled and tapped or you could put a MKII set of trigger bushings in a MKIII that comes drilled and tapped. two ways to get to the same thing in the end

when you shop for aftermarket triggers the MKII and MKIII and MKIII 22/45 all use the same parts you just have to get the lawyer accessories out of the way.

it shouldn't get worse but it was the time we lived in and you could walk in to a store and buy a MKIII off the shelf and get the bushing from midway for 8 dollars and shipping or look a long time to find a MKII around used that someone would let go of.


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Re: So found a Ruger MKll buuuuttt [Re: Wolfdog91] #7641520
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Value comparison - Ruger single six pistols I have seen for sale recently in this area are way north of $200. Single six is a good accurate trapline pistol too. I have one that rides in the tool bucket when working out of canoe/boat. That is the only purpose it has, I don’t target shoot with a single six.

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Originally Posted by NWS,LLC
Value comparison - Ruger single six pistols I have seen for sale recently in this area are way north of $200. Single six is a good accurate trapline pistol too. I have one that rides in the tool bucket when working out of canoe/boat. That is the only purpose it has, I don’t target shoot with a single six.



I bought one on consignment for $135.
Looked like someone used it to drive trap stakes.

Accurate enough at 18".
But beyond that....

My heavy barreled MKII is VERY accurate.

Re: So found a Ruger MKll buuuuttt [Re: Wolfdog91] #7641531
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Doesn’t appear to be money well spent. I wouldn’t consider on target at <18” accurate.

Re: So found a Ruger MKll buuuuttt [Re: NWS,LLC] #7641539
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Originally Posted by NWS,LLC
Doesn’t appear to be money well spent. I wouldn’t consider on target at <18” accurate.


Serves its purpose.
Bought it as a trapline gun.

Re: So found a Ruger MKll buuuuttt [Re: Wolfdog91] #7641554
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My old single six looks a little rough. It shoots good enough to hit the bottom of a pop can at 25 steps.


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