Re: Upsetting the 'Apple' cart. . .
[Re: Wanna Be]
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08/05/22 12:56 PM
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Guess I misunderstood the assignment, lol. Thought y’all wanted it as a competition. Killing large # of coyotes would do just that ! LoL ! BUT we all have our on opinions on way makes a contest a contest. And thats fine with me. We all have different likes and dislikes. We all have different ways and methods. I personally like the idea of = go somewhere. Make it worth the landowners time For having the contest. Kill lots of coyotes. Have BIG cash prize!!!!! But thats my dream contest. May be not yours. But mine LOL!!!
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Re: Upsetting the 'Apple' cart. . .
[Re: LT GREY]
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08/05/22 02:41 PM
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So if there ever is a Tman coyote competition on a big ranch how would it be an equal playing field considering the population isn't the same on the entire ranch? Or to we just take off like a flock of quail and fight for the best locations LOL?? 100 traps limit would make things interesting; I'll even use urine LOL... An unexploited population would be awesome.
Common sense catches alot of fur.. Pay homage to all you harvest..
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Re: Upsetting the 'Apple' cart. . .
[Re: LT GREY]
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08/05/22 05:48 PM
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Have it up north in winter-separate the men from the boys-big country up there-the snareman would take it.
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Re: Upsetting the 'Apple' cart. . .
[Re: Boco]
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08/05/22 09:28 PM
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Have it up north in winter-separate the men from the boys-big country up there-the snareman would take it. I dont think It would be a good idea for some of this crew To try to cross an International boarder! LOL !!
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Re: Upsetting the 'Apple' cart. . .
[Re: steeltraps]
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08/06/22 12:13 AM
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Have it up north in winter-separate the men from the boys-big country up there-the snareman would take it. I dont think It would be a good idea for some of this crew To try to cross an International boarder! LOL !! You dont have to go that far.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Upsetting the 'Apple' cart. . .
[Re: LT GREY]
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08/07/22 08:00 PM
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Yukon John
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I've trapped both sides of the border
( not that this is what this thread is about ) I'm peeing on this reply! Lol (LT don't get too offended please!)
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Re: Upsetting the 'Apple' cart. . .
[Re: LT GREY]
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08/16/22 01:31 PM
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Trappers use of urine at a set is not about duplicating what an animal does naturally but as a fear eliminater. An animal smells anothers odor & makes it feel safer about approaching
TILL THAT DAY.....
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Re: Upsetting the 'Apple' cart. . .
[Re: patrapperbuster]
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08/16/22 03:06 PM
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Yes sir
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Trappers use of urine at a set is not about duplicating what an animal does naturally but as a fear eliminater. An animal smells anothers odor & makes it feel safer about approaching
That would be my theory also based of watching coyotes reactions to urine on video
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Re: Upsetting the 'Apple' cart. . .
[Re: LT GREY]
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08/17/22 02:50 PM
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Based on that. . .let's dump a gallon of urine in a garden sprayer and adjust the nozzle to 'mist' and cover the entire area 5ft X 5 ft
Now, as strange and unnatural as that may seem. . .I've done that plenty of times.
What happens when an animal is trapped ? It urinates and (often defecates) and spreads it all around as it digs, so the urine odor is all over that entire (trap) circle. So, the area where the animal was trapped, often reeks of urine. What's the difference ?
Well , to answer that, it's body odor, period. Now, want to duplicate that ?
Here's a simple trick I use :
Skin a coyote, then take the entire hide and soak it in a clean bucket of rainwater, overnight. The water now reeks of coyote ! Pour it into a 'garden sprayer' , turn the nozzle to mist, and spray the entire set area.
* to concentrate this odor : freeze the water, then turn it upside down and allow the 'funk' to drain leaving the 'ice' behind. . .
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Re: Upsetting the 'Apple' cart. . .
[Re: LT GREY]
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08/17/22 03:14 PM
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Wanna Be
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Back when we were kids, the old timers told us to wash our hands with fox urine before making a set. All we used back then was a pine cone soaked in fox urine down a hole. We’d use the classic V with logs and brush piled up on the point covering the hole. We didn’t have coyotes back then, or at least not many. When we were done with a set it reeked of fox urine. And yeah, we caught coons, fox, and bobcats of those sets regularly. How? I don’t have a clue because we’d make our pans so lose if a mouse hopped across it then it would snap. Keep in mind we were about 12 or so too, lol.
Typing that made me realize I haven’t made a set like that since those days. Just for old times sake I just might. The wife might forbid me from coming inside if I wash my hands in fox pee though.
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Re: Upsetting the 'Apple' cart. . .
[Re: Wanna Be]
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08/17/22 03:59 PM
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Yukon John
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Back when we were kids, the old timers told us to wash our hands with fox urine before making a set. All we used back then was a pine cone soaked in fox urine down a hole. We’d use the classic V with logs and brush piled up on the point covering the hole. We didn’t have coyotes back then, or at least not many. When we were done with a set it reeked of fox urine. And yeah, we caught coons, fox, and bobcats of those sets regularly. How? I don’t have a clue because we’d make our pans so lose if a mouse hopped across it then it would snap. Keep in mind we were about 12 or so too, lol.
Typing that made me realize I haven’t made a set like that since those days. Just for old times sake I just might. The wife might forbid me from coming inside if I wash my hands in fox pee though. Lol, that made me giggle!
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Re: Upsetting the 'Apple' cart. . .
[Re: LT GREY]
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08/20/22 08:56 AM
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Here's another funny story for you then. . .
Years ago, at the NTA show, an old timer would have a bottle that you couldn't see through, and inside the bottle was plain water.
When young kids would come up to his booth at a convention, he would ask them if they wanted to smell what real high-quality urine smells like. Some would say ''Yes". He would then open the cap and extend the bottle toward them, so they could smell it. . .but what they didn't know, is he had rubbed his index finger with 'spiked' fox urine and the kids were actually smelling the scent on the top of the finger that held the bottle, NOT what was inside.
They would always recoil of course, with a curled lip He would then say, that if you really wanted to know how good the urine was, you should take a sip. . .to which he would put the bottle to his lip, using the other hand and take a drink. . .
Those kids eyes would be as big as saucers !
He sold a lot of pints of urine ! ![laugh laugh](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif)
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