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Waxing Water Traps ? #7644595
08/07/22 04:51 PM
08/07/22 04:51 PM
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Central Ohio
LT GREY Offline OP
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Recently a student of mine received some beaver-sized foothold traps that were waxed.
Now it's my thought that waxing a trap you set in water, is not the best idea, as it makes it slippery on a 'leathery' foot, like a raccoon or in this case, a beaver or otter.
A few of the traps ( MB 750's ) were offset, which again makes me think that a waxed trap in water, may just be a wrong move, but then this is just my opinion, especially on an offset trap. Laminate the jaws, which while displacing the power, may make a waxed trap, easier to power out of as a thinner jaw would dig in more.
While I like lamination and have waxed many a trap, that combination with offset jaws, isn't something I personally would do for a beaver trap.

Your thoughts.

( The other traps were, I believe Duke # 5 CS , NOT offset )

Re: Waxing Water Traps ? [Re: LT GREY] #7644603
08/07/22 05:07 PM
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Amite county Mississippi
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I personally hate waxed traps. Just had alot of bad experiences with them when I first started out and just don't see how it's worth the hassle. Very very few things I do in the KISS mentality but coating traps is one.
Strip ,paint dip and that's it.

Re: Waxing Water Traps ? [Re: LT GREY] #7644605
08/07/22 05:08 PM
08/07/22 05:08 PM
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Wisconsin
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I would not bother

Re: Waxing Water Traps ? [Re: LT GREY] #7644628
08/07/22 05:48 PM
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I still speed dip water traps. With coons it dont seem to matter much. first catch they get it all shiny clean anyway. may take two or three catchs on drowners but nothing stays on real good. i think dipping does help with rust between seasons and its fast and easy


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Re: Waxing Water Traps ? [Re: LT GREY] #7644629
08/07/22 05:49 PM
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Agree with Wolfdog.

Re: Waxing Water Traps ? [Re: LT GREY] #7644641
08/07/22 06:02 PM
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If your trap is that weak that a thin layer of wax is gonna cause a pull out you need new springs.
For mink, waxing is a good thing.
Paint is fine too, though.
But yeah, one coon and the wax is gone.


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Re: Waxing Water Traps ? [Re: LT GREY] #7644642
08/07/22 06:06 PM
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I wax all my snares and traps,including 330's.
They deserve protection from the elements just like any other trap.


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Re: Waxing Water Traps ? [Re: LT GREY] #7644664
08/07/22 06:27 PM
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I painted mine this year, no wax, but it's the first time I tried it, so I have not formed an opinion yet.
But I also only have a couple dozen, and some of them are muskrat traps that I have no plans on using any time soon. I just wanted them protected for storage.

Last night I was skimming through an old Raymond Thompson trapping book. He said he treated his traps with a mix of skunk and lynx oil. Which I found interesting. I think the book was written around 1920 if I remember right.

Re: Waxing Water Traps ? [Re: LT GREY] #7644700
08/07/22 07:01 PM
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I paint and wax all my water traps
I guess I'm doing it wrong. grin

Re: Waxing Water Traps ? [Re: wetdog] #7644738
08/07/22 07:50 PM
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LT GREY Offline OP
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Originally Posted by wetdog
I paint and wax all my water traps
I guess I'm doing it wrong. grin



Not necessarily, just wanted to see people's views on the subject.

Just because I do something, doesn't make it right. . .just right for me.

Re: Waxing Water Traps ? [Re: LT GREY] #7644747
08/07/22 07:59 PM
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I don’t wax water traps, to me it makes them a bit to sensitive and unpredictable. To each their own, but I just paint mine.


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Re: Waxing Water Traps ? [Re: LT GREY] #7644762
08/07/22 08:09 PM
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Wisconsin
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Dip for me. I don't wax any traps, even coyote traps.


57 years trapping. It's who I am. Every day is still as exciting as it was when I was a kid but a little more work.
Re: Waxing Water Traps ? [Re: LT GREY] #7645003
08/08/22 08:00 AM
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I always wax all my beaver footholds, not my bodygrips though. Of course I run closed jawed and usually teethed footholds for beaver and otter. Waxing makes them faster, smoother, and protects them from the elements. I realize there are states that require it, but otherwise I would never run offsets for beaver or otter.

Re: Waxing Water Traps ? [Re: LT GREY] #7645012
08/08/22 08:15 AM
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I wax em all. For beavs, I run Kendalls No BS beav trap with only 2 coils, waxed, and have never had one at the bottom of the drowner without a beaver in it.



Re: Waxing Water Traps ? [Re: LT GREY] #7645045
08/08/22 09:28 AM
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I’ve done all methods over the years and can’t say I’m absolute on any one. I guess that’s why they make chocolate and vanilla and different brands of trapping lure. 😊

Re: Waxing Water Traps ? [Re: LT GREY] #7645080
08/08/22 10:48 AM
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I dip in formula one.


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Re: Waxing Water Traps ? [Re: kytrapper] #7645101
08/08/22 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by kytrapper
I’ve done all methods over the years and can’t say I’m absolute on any one. I guess that’s why they make chocolate and vanilla and different brands of trapping lure. 😊


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Re: Waxing Water Traps ? [Re: LT GREY] #7645112
08/08/22 11:52 AM
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I waxed my Duke 5 LS. Can't set em by hand over my knee without them being waxed. But all my other beaver traps (coilsprings)..I did not.

I dipped the coilsprings in brown Formula One but I can't afford that stuff now.....so I'm going back to logwood dye and wax the coilsprings too.


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Re: Waxing Water Traps ? [Re: LT GREY] #7645231
08/08/22 02:50 PM
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W NY
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If I dye them they get waxed
If I paint them, no wax


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Re: Waxing Water Traps ? [Re: LT GREY] #7645536
08/08/22 09:27 PM
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Just wax conibears and foot traps. Only trap water. Got it in my head that catch percentage declines when traps start rusting.

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