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Snares and Drowners?? #7666189
09/06/22 06:39 PM
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Anyone ever use drowners {cable or rod type} with snares? Beaver and otter specifically? We here in NJ are banned from footholds. Only snares and submerged bodygrips are allowed. Looking for a way to set crossovers, slides and more
Thoughts?

Re: Snares and Drowners?? [Re: TrapprChris] #7666194
09/06/22 06:49 PM
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They work. I've only ever set 1, for beaver, caught a coon. Seemed to work fine.


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Re: Snares and Drowners?? [Re: TrapprChris] #7666199
09/06/22 06:55 PM
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Tangle stake(kill pole) are better than a slide to deep water for snares-quicker to set and need far less water depth to drown.


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Re: Snares and Drowners?? [Re: TrapprChris] #7666236
09/06/22 07:56 PM
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You have to make your snares as short as possible while still be able to reach the rod and set at the desired high. As such that means you're going to need a minimum of 3ft(7ft if you tail snare it....) of water to drown a beaver. The bottom end of the drowner has to be solid because it has 4 wheel drive because it doesnt have anything heavy attached to a foot.

Re: Snares and Drowners?? [Re: TrapprChris] #7666265
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All good points Thank you

Re: Snares and Drowners?? [Re: TrapprChris] #7666275
09/06/22 09:12 PM
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Yes. Works well. If using rods, as Sniperb says make sure it’s in the mud good. I prefer chain drowners staked at both ends because when I’m using snares it is because I had to walk in a ways and I can carry enough gear to set a lot more.


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Re: Snares and Drowners?? [Re: TrapprChris] #7666286
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When i started using snares like that a friend suggested that all of the slack be taken up from the drowner lock.That way quite often you can set both sides of the cross over.

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Re: Snares and Drowners?? [Re: TrapprChris] #7666293
09/06/22 09:51 PM
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You really don't want slack in any slider system. Slack deepens the water depth requirement and allows potential jacking of the stake.

Re: Snares and Drowners?? [Re: Boco] #7666568
09/07/22 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Tangle stake(kill pole) are better than a slide to deep water for snares-quicker to set and need far less water depth to drown.



I agree, if done right !

Re: Snares and Drowners?? [Re: TrapprChris] #7669498
09/11/22 09:36 PM
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It works!

Re: Snares and Drowners?? [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7673168
09/17/22 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SNIPERB🦝
You have to make your snares as short as possible while still be able to reach the rod and set at the desired high. As such that means you're going to need a minimum of 3ft(7ft if you tail snare it....) of water to drown a beaver. The bottom end of the drowner has to be solid because it has 4 wheel drive because it doesnt have anything heavy attached to a foot.


This is exactly what I did last year. Found a place where the water was too deep for a foothold but the beavers were using it frequently. I cut down a snare as short as I could and still get the loop I wanted. Actually connected the first night it was in!

Re: Snares and Drowners?? [Re: TrapprChris] #7686194
10/05/22 09:10 PM
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We’ve snared with drowning rods for a couple years. Our snares are 42-inches long and quick-linked to a drowner slide on the rod. The rods are 9-10 ft of 1/2 to 5/8 rebar. We stake the top with a T-bar after jamming the other end into the mud. This allows us a 72-hour check because it’s classed as a drowning set.

But, I’d bet 40% of the beavers have pulled the deep end and the whole works is being held by the T-bar. This isn’t as bad as it sounds. The T-bars always hold well and the beavers are just out in the water swimming around.

I’ve graduated to setting snares on runs heading up the bank. Attached to the snare is a 10-ft extension. The beavers are usually up on the bank. Often asleep. They kind of look at you and amble down to the water. There’s no fear or hissing if they can get to the water. Ron Jones and Newt Sterling (and Morgan Bennett) suggest long extensions on snares. Dale Billingsley, of Iowa, suggests long extensions too. I really like this method.


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Re: Snares and Drowners?? [Re: Teacher] #7686199
10/05/22 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Teacher
We’ve snared with drowning rods for a couple years. Our snares are 42-inches long and quick-linked to a drowner slide on the rod. The rods are 9-10 ft of 1/2 to 5/8 rebar. We stake the top with a T-bar after jamming the other end into the mud. This allows us a 72-hour check because it’s classed as a drowning set.

But, I’d bet 40% of the beavers have pulled the deep end and the whole works is being held by the T-bar. This isn’t as bad as it sounds. The T-bars always hold well and the beavers are just out in the water swimming around.

I’ve graduated to setting snares on runs heading up the bank. Attached to the snare is a 10-ft extension. The beavers are usually up on the bank. Often asleep. They kind of look at you and amble down to the water. There’s no fear or hissing if they can get to the water. Ron Jones and Newt Sterling (and Morgan Bennett) suggest long extensions on snares. Dale Billingsley, of Iowa, suggests long extensions too. I really like this method.

Yep.

After the initial short fight with the snare, they dont move around much unless you get right on top of them. Which causes issues when you're running a long boat line and you're to remember where that snare was and you're looking around everywhere and then look up the bank and the beaver is sitting up there hiding in plain sight. If you're trying to preserve the set location, probably not a good idea to run extensions. Then again you can't really destroy a beaver snare site with a catch like most other trap/snare scenarios.

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