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Re: Holding Ground, Losing War [Re: NonPCfed] #7680389
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Using just green energy will kill 3/4 of the people on the planet.


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Re: Holding Ground, Losing War [Re: Marty] #7680396
09/27/22 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Marty
Using just green energy will kill 3/4 of the people on the planet.


You think they don't know that?


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Re: Holding Ground, Losing War [Re: NonPCfed] #7680404
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Lots of people do not know that.


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Re: Holding Ground, Losing War [Re: NonPCfed] #7680487
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Originally Posted by NonPCfed
Somebody just did 3 hits on the under sea (Baltic Sea) Nord Stream I & II NG pipelines from Russia to Germany. Somebody doesn't want Germany to have non-land passage (either through Poland or Ukraine) of Russian NG. Germany is being painted into a corner to "stay obedient". A person really can't make this stuff up. Straight out of a Tom Clancy novel...



Coincidence.....?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-german-chancellor-nord-stream-2-russia/


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Re: Holding Ground, Losing War [Re: NonPCfed] #7680558
09/28/22 12:20 AM
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Re: Holding Ground, Losing War [Re: NonPCfed] #7682257
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An interesting piece of analysis. Probably too complex for 30 second media heads or politicians but it doesn't change the reality. Stuff like logistics is boring to short attention span people and if the "non-sexy" stuff isn't going with your narrative, just ignore it. Again, that doesn't change reality. Things are not going to improve for the Kiev government and their military.

An example from this essay: "In effect, the effort to keep Ukraine’s artillery arm functioning has gone through a few phases. In the first phase, Warsaw Pact stockpiles of Soviet shells were drained to supply Ukraine’s existing guns. In the second phase, Ukraine was given mid-level western capabilities, especially the 155mm howitzer. Now that 155mm shells are running low, Ukraine has to make do with 105mm guns which are badly outranged by Russian howitzers and will be, in a word, doomed in any kind of counterbattery action. "

If the world stays in one piece, probably a lot more mail-order Ukrainian brides on the market in the coming years...

https://bigserge.substack.com/p/the-war-has-just-begun


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Re: Holding Ground, Losing War [Re: NonPCfed] #7682387
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Noon time update. The Ukrainian government has asked for expedited NATO membership after the Russian government signed into the Russian Federation the 4 Ukrainian provinces that had just had majority votes to join Russia. So, is the U.S. government and its European partners going to leave their client state out in the cold with its current status quo?? If NATO votes to accept Ukraine as a member then an ongoing Article 5 is occurring. I guess perhaps the plan if this goes full, openly kinetic is that NATO air forces and naval power can keep the Russians pinned down enough until armored and heavy infantry units can be spun up-- can't materialize those kind of forces overnight. Then I guess we'll see what the NATO military leaders have dreamed about for decades, taking out the Bear with a conventional war. Of course, everything will stay under control, no nukes will be involved. The U.S. Prez has 60 days is use U.S. military without any kind of Congressional consent. Everybody voted for this, right????

https://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/ukraine-requests-fast-track-nato-membership/


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Re: Holding Ground, Losing War [Re: NonPCfed] #7682407
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If ya want the truth....I don't think anyone cares as much as you as lomg as we don't end up in a nuclear war with the communists you seem to be a boot-licker of.

We are aware that our govt and Ukraine's are corrupt as all get out, but push comes to shove when it comes down to being a communist or democracy, ill take our side.

Re: Holding Ground, Losing War [Re: hippie] #7682409
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Originally Posted by hippie
If ya want the truth....I don't think anyone cares as much as you as lomg as we don't end up in a nuclear war with the communists you seem to be a boot-licker of.

We are aware that our govt and Ukraine's are corrupt as all get out, but push comes to shove when it comes down to being a communist or democracy, ill take our side.


And our side is just what specifically?

Serious question.


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Democracy

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Originally Posted by hippie
Democracy


Correction, CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC.

Re: Holding Ground, Losing War [Re: k snow] #7682416
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Originally Posted by k snow
Originally Posted by hippie
Democracy


Correction, CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC.


Correction... Representative democracy.

Re: Holding Ground, Losing War [Re: NonPCfed] #7682427
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And there's the rub.

Democracy = mob rule


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Seriously dude, do you truly understand just what democracy is?

It is one of the greatest evils ever orchestrated. Mainly because humanity itself is inherently evil and easily led into evil.

Our founders understood this and installed guard rails within our representing constitional federal republic.

Further, the individual must recognize and use internal guardrails of morality.


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Know something better?

Seems like people will risk death to get here from the other choices.

Re: Holding Ground, Losing War [Re: NonPCfed] #7682438
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Re: Holding Ground, Losing War [Re: NonPCfed] #7682439
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Yeah a pack of dogs also comes running when you toss out the scraps.

These folks are coming for the handouts.

But, yes, historically this republic was indeed the land of liberty. But not in its current form. Your side has corrupted liberty into licentiousness, freedom of thought into suppression of dissent, equality of opportunity to equity in misery. All the while inculcating a corrupt oligarchy of despots.


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You truly refuse to see the forest for the trees.

Have you ever had a thought deeper than two sentences?


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Without thought and reason you are no better than the dumb animals that fall for our lures and get skinned.


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So, you don't know anything better? Call me shallow, my one or two sentences I write get straight to the point, no him-hawing around and avoiding what is asked of me.

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