P.s., Cuba isn't that far but I recommend ya take your car with ya.

I know let's hold an experiment in democracy.

Just for entertainment sake let's put two questions of the make believe trapperman ballot.

Considering that we all enjoy this forum and hope to continue to so long into the future we hope to secure that future for we the trappers by removing Paul Dobbins' sole proprietary control of the forum and creating a trappers committee to administrate the forum on his behalf.

° yes
° no

Should we the users of the forum have the right to exclude members who do not meet the standards of the trappers committee?

° yes
° no


Considering that there is but just one of Paul and hundreds of us and just one of hippie I'm just certain this would be all for the best.

Democracy

Still don't have a better example than what we live under?

If that above is suppose to answer me, I don't see your answer.

Of course you don't.

Don't be scared to say you'd sooner live under Putin and communism if that's it, I'd sooner talk to an honest Straight forward person than try to figure out a riddle.

Warrior, not if it was a bunch of Marxist liberals who hate everything about being an outdoorsman, or our Constitution, and hence-those who support America, who now are called terrorists. .

No one would think of usurping the forum anyway. That's called capitalism, respected in the Constitution. Mr Paul has mods for help, who are respected.

I have seen, that the "other side of the isle" is bent for tearing up this country . That ends any consideration of what is obviously their agenda now...for me. at least.

Otherwise, the Second A would not have spelled out the time when those would see a tyrannical government was worth not supporting anymore in being against it.

I think you both are on the same page...It's just the definition of "democracy " is what is being clarified now. Maybe that term needs new clarification anyway ...

They know full well I was referring to our system, regardless of what you want to call it. Democracy, republic, representative democracy or stolen election.

Regarding the PO's article in The American Conservative;
Why do we keep taking the bait? Won't people ever learn?

Well see there, that settles it. I knew this all along. Warrior feels the same. I've seen it in his posts .

Tomato- tomaaato


I have to say- I do feel this is a Republic- " And to the REPUBLIC, for which it stands....."

The word democrat sticks in my throat bigly , is the trouble with me , racer man

Words have meaning. We once were perfectly agreeable to accept democracy as a synonym for what we have here in our constitutionally limited system of government with protections for all.

However, with the left we have usurpation of definitions such that democracy now means its exact definition and if enough of them are vocal enough to drown out the rest then anything goes.

Unfortunately only for one side.

The have redefined (or cant/won't define) democracy, vaccine, pandemic, recession, inflation, man, woman and the list goes on and on...

I see what you mean, Warrior, and I agree . I never let them decide how I use terms , anyway.

It's just me...I have such a bad taste of the word democrat these days, and, I really have considered this country to be a republic .

Anyway, I do see we are all on the same page , really.

As for Putin, he is an authoritarian dictator by any definition and while I personally don't know the man I would consider him to be a bad person not worthy of following. However on sheer ability and his professed concern for the security of his nation I respect him as I would do any national leader. Just don't screw around with the US of A.

As for the Ukraine conflict I don't have a horse in that race and seriously question the involvement of certain American actors and NATO into the affairs of Ukraine. Does that make me a commie supporter of Putin? Only the stupid and politically bent could jump to that assumption.

down is up and up is down...fentanyl pours into the USA and the cities are going third world..crisis proportions. If we are the shining beacon for the world then that light is dim.

So this all boils down to me saying ill take our side over communism, and when asked to define our side my exact definition didn't suit?

the whole world suffers because the players could not negotiate transferring land where most of the people wanted the transfer to happen?

Why do some of you guys still refer to Putin as a communist. It demonstrates a lack of understanding or knowledge. In case you missed it, communism no longer exists in Russia. The Soviet Union came to an end a few decades ago.

If you're seeking a pejorative term for Putin, try to find a better one than "commie".

Criminal? Corrupt? Murderer? Thief? Former POS Commie?

hippie- If Putin's Russians end up over here, I'd be the first one shoulder to shoulder with you fighting back. But, I doubt it will be Putin's Russians kicking in your door to grab all your stashed ammo and reloading supplies. It will be folks who are much closer to home.

Now that you'd outed my secret of boot licking, can you send me one of your old pairs? I've heard that the central PA mud and other "stuff" on your boots is mighty tasty. Probably has more organic matter in it than my upland farm mud around here...

Probably all true but not my problem. Neither is Ukraine.