42 year old beaver robe.Well used.
15 LG beaver,self tanned and sewn.
I sold quite a few of these for $1800 a piece.But that is the first one I made for my own use.
Not near as warm as a bear robe,but good for the basement bedroom,I like to turn the heat down at night in the house.

common sense has nothing to do with a plan being executed....they are going according to their plan.

Catch if your gonna quote me use the whole thing and don't cherry pick

I guess with a fur blanket they could stay warm and if worse came to worse, they could eat the leather.

All I know for sure is a prime Mississippi coon pelt wouldn't keep a Northern Michigan coon warm on a sunny winter day. Fur is valued far more as a garment in cold climates than warm. If ones opinion is based on what you see in your area that may not reflect popularity in a climate where we drive our trucks and campers out on the lake for a winter camp out. No fur is not mainstream here, but if you're out and about in mid January/February at one of our many winter festivals/carnivals you will see quite a few fur garments. Not the old school style but current styles, vests, mitts and many hats.

I hadn't intended on posting again, but here we go again, falsehood. I said, yeah no and I've said it 100x. I didn't cherry pick as you say, I used the words you used against a member who promoted fur.

Maybe we are missing a marketing angle with the newest generation.....Furbie's Furries or what ever they go by. We can market real fur suits for these kids to wear!! Just think like parents buying school clothes....5th grader dresses like a kitten this year, grows a bunch, and then in 6th grade identifies as a wolf or !! Perfect! We have for sale this evironmental friendly wolf suit......

Apparently the average custom fur suit is anywhere from $1500-$10,000

synthetics can be awful warm and will weigh lots less....then you have the king of cold-goose down.

Well we better get a spot on "Shark Tank" !!! Those Furbies could drive the next fur boom!! Guess those litter boxes in schools ain't such a big deal afterall.....

Yeah -- but we get wet here - all the time- How does down do when it is wet?

down looses all warmth when very wet...you need to keep it dry. Probably will not be rain if it is very cold..

Hey boco
Got any pictures of the bear robe ? And I noticed you said spring bear, is there a reason spring vs fall bear ?
Sounds pretty cool.

The bear robes are at the camps.

There is a bear robe behind the skidoo on the sleigh-I used it to cover up the kids when they were small for long trips by ski doo to the cabin.
Spring bear is prime-Much heavier fur than fall bear.
Fall bear is nice on the floor.

Hey Wolfdog
I really like that you think about ways to use fur and ask some awful good business/marketing questions regarding who is currently using what/whats the price point etc. All of that would be needed to start any venture into such a market. However, I'm going to suggest as a trapping community that we need to first concentrate on the very issue above that you are talking about.

But before that i'm going to sidetrack a little. This is a good post about how complex and dynamic things become. There's no doubt certain cooler parts of the world wear functional fur to stay warm even in rough times. When the stars align such as a Russia of the recent past that also has oil money, bulky "utilitarian" fur like coon come into demand for both warmth and fashion at the same time. On the flip side, fur continues to be a luxury---look at how many high dollar coats go into tropic/desert climates because oil money can afford them not because they are functional. In the middle ground we have broad trends----I'd say canada goose coat was a decent example. Not a cheap utilitarian coat at over a grand and up but there were plenty of upper and middle class kids wearing them in recent years. Ever seen one? That trim on its beautiful and stands out yards away. But dont beat up the upper end markets too much as they get copied which might be the ultimate in flattery but some also could point and say it tends to be the end of the trend. Ever seen the copy cat knock off version of those coats?---must be where my eastern section 3s went and i'm not sure even the biggest discount store could sell them. I'm of the position that in the end, the market shakes everything out where it needs to be and fur of various quality could flow into whatever markets are needed.

So how do you get the attention of what is basically that middle section of the market and even expand it: not just fur for functional warmth or fur for high club scene fashion? What is the extra thing that fur can do to compete and become used broadly? Is it possible that it has less to do with function and fashion and more to do with principles?

My thought continues to be that there could be some room to capitalize on the current generations coming of age and their deeply held belief that it is up to them to fix the environmental issues of the world. I think the "fur" industry should be working the angle of renewable resource versus plastics harder. Fur as "green" seems to have the possibility to play to the younger crowd. Of course it might not even be workable. The generation also essentially holds a hatred to oil as they havent quite figured out yet that its the one universal substance that has been and continues to run the entire world so even if fur replaced oil based plastic we might all be living in the stone age anyway.

we get 33 degree rain followed by our easterly 20s commonly -wool works great when wet - as does fur - we really don't get cold enough for fur here -- lets do our marketing on the lighter side in this area.

Hows about we talk about our regulations involving tanning??

she thought 10%

try more like 25-30% and her own example shows it

13 euros for 4 chicken breasts in 2021 now 18 euros for 4 28% in a year , yup about the same here on most grocery items

As always Marty, you are on point; I agree, the system is doomed to fail.

I just had a friend from the Netherlands here for three weeks. He says they are so anti-fur there they would rather freeze than use or ware fur. He used to trap, even though it was illegal. He is not thinking about coats and blankets, he is thinking about food and cooking it. He heated one room in his house last winter. He kept it in the mid 50's. But what would he know? Just because he is living it means nothing. There is very little to hunt or fish, he is about 95% self sufficient and buys very little food. He raises his own meat and vegetables. Fuel is about four time what it costs us. Wood is higher than fuel. Electricity has sky rocketed.