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Re: In response to [Re: Wolfdog91] #7699477
10/24/22 01:35 PM
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Just as everyone has their own reasons for trapping, be it population control, depredation, money, enjoyment, whatever... I think people choose to fly that flag, or any flag, for many different reasons. Many do so because they had family that fought in that war. Others, like you said (especially common in young male Yankees) just do it to show they're a rebel. A few evil people do so to because they believe it represents their hatred of the black race.

What it means to me though is none of those things. I fly it in remembrance of what this country was before that war, when the rights not guaranteed by the Constitution were left in the hands of the individual states, and when the Federal Government was more of a figurehead and less of the overreaching, smothering monstrosity it is today.

Re: In response to [Re: AKAjust] #7699482
10/24/22 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by AKAjust
I guess I just don't understand.
That flag was the flag of a group of some that basicly said "we don't want to be part of the United States. A war was fought and it decided that they could not remove themselves from the union.
Seems like today it is used by those who think they want to be a rebel and can't figure a way to show their message other than flying that flag. There are those who fly that flag who believe in the original message flying that flag stood for.
So which is it?
just.


The reason they didn't want to be part of the United states was so they could own slaves. You can't get away from that part of it.

Re: In response to [Re: Wolfdog91] #7699501
10/24/22 02:05 PM
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Battlefields.org/learn/articles/reasons-secession

If everyone reads this, it will become clear.


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Re: In response to [Re: BernieB.] #7699523
10/24/22 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BernieB.
Originally Posted by AKAjust
I guess I just don't understand.
That flag was the flag of a group of some that basicly said "we don't want to be part of the United States. A war was fought and it decided that they could not remove themselves from the union.
Seems like today it is used by those who think they want to be a rebel and can't figure a way to show their message other than flying that flag. There are those who fly that flag who believe in the original message flying that flag stood for.
So which is it?
just.


The reason they didn't want to be part of the United states was so they could own slaves. You can't get away from that part of it.



Yet the Emancipation Proclamation did not free the slaves in Union states.

I see the war as the first major case of the Feds overstepping their constitutional authority.
MD in particular was an egregious violation of folks' rights.

And that's how we got to where was are today.

Re: In response to [Re: Wolfdog91] #7699552
10/24/22 03:51 PM
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The north could care less if slaves were owned, the north wanted to tax the owners. The south didn't want that they thought they should be owned with out being taxed. The north said if we can't tax then you shouldn't own them at all. That's why the north offered freedom so they could gain soldiers for the war, however being free gave them no more rights as a whole.

Re: In response to [Re: Wolfdog91] #7699556
10/24/22 04:00 PM
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Just fly the world flag.
The flag of the united Nations.
Then no one will be offended because all belong to that flag.
It unites,it doesnt divide.All other flags divide.

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Re: In response to [Re: Boco] #7699574
10/24/22 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Just fly the world flag.
The flag of the united Nations.
Then no one will be offended because all belong to that flag.
It unites,it doesnt divide.All other flags divide.



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Re: In response to [Re: Wolfdog91] #7699602
10/24/22 04:53 PM
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Re: In response to [Re: yotetrapper30] #7699634
10/24/22 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Others, like you said (especially common in young male Yankees) just do it to show they're a rebel.


I recently moved to NY and did a double-take first time I saw one up here. Didn't think Yankees flew 'em until this year.

Re: In response to [Re: kbuck] #7699658
10/24/22 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by kbuck
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Others, like you said (especially common in young male Yankees) just do it to show they're a rebel.


I recently moved to NY and did a double-take first time I saw one up here. Didn't think Yankees flew 'em until this year.


You moved from Arkansas to NY? Prayers sent.

Re: In response to [Re: Jurassic Park] #7699714
10/24/22 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
Who got the boot? I missed the thread I guess.


Same here. Maybe it is a secret.


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Re: In response to [Re: Jerry Jr.] #7699730
10/24/22 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerry Jr.
Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
Who got the boot? I missed the thread I guess.


Same here. Maybe it is a secret.


https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/7699160/re-something-that-worries-me#Post7699160

I think some of the replies have been removed or altered, but you'll get the idea.

Re: In response to [Re: Wolfdog91] #7699766
10/24/22 07:42 PM
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It was Arkansas87 or something like that.

Re: In response to [Re: Boco] #7699780
10/24/22 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Just fly the world flag.
The flag of the united Nations.
Then no one will be offended because all belong to that flag.
It unites,it doesnt divide.All other flags divide.



UN Flag?

You've gone mad.


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Re: In response to [Re: rex123] #7699799
10/24/22 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by rex123
I have a really simple question .Why? EVERY so often you make a post like this and then someone gets axed and you come on and make a large post about why you stirred everybody up and then stir and repeat. You know the outcome before it's posted because you know the people on here so I ask why? I understand what you are trying but you also know ahead of time the reaction you are going to get. It is like going to a BLM site and saying police are the good guys.


Put it to you like this , I like speaking with intelligent people. I feel most people on here are rather intelligent, much more then me and many aspects, I honestly don't think I've too bright of a person honestly. It's a wonderful think to have good civil conversations with people. And ive done it Manny many times here.
Ever sat down with someone and had a good long civil conversation where you and that other person shared ideas? It's wonderful. Regardless of there stance on a matter ,being able to exchange ideas with people in a civil educated manner is great.
Yes somtimes I feel the stuff I post could cause controversy to the average type of people, the ones who would prefer to just scream and jump around like children instead of actually think intelligently. But I feel most on here are again rather intelligent,much more then I in many cases I feel ,so most of the time I just don't see that as an issue. I feel most on here would read my posts and really get what I'm saying. Not just fly off the handle. And I've been told many times I shouldn't try because I'm wasting my time because alot of people on here arnt that bright. But I really don't believe that. I've had too many conversations with some on here . So partly I guess it's because I like proving some of those people wrong.
So partly I feel like if I just don't if is stop I'm proving those who said those things correct. I feel isn't a bit insulting to many on here honestly...

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Re: In response to [Re: Wolfdog91] #7699800
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Keep some things between the mods. after deletion IMO. Keeps things lingering when it isn't otherwise. Again did not bother reading whole post once I got the jest. Quick 2 cents. Love you all either way! No joke lol. Just had my posts picked apart by a member or 2 in the past. Some just lurk to do. Let the mods. "Live and Let Die"! each post. I trust their collective judgement.

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Re: In response to [Re: yotetrapper30] #7699806
10/24/22 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
It was Arkansas87 or something like that.


After reading the post ADC linked I believe it was VABeagler.


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Re: In response to [Re: Wolfdog91] #7699814
10/24/22 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Originally Posted by rex123
I have a really simple question .Why? EVERY so often you make a post like this and then someone gets axed and you come on and make a large post about why you stirred everybody up and then stir and repeat. You know the outcome before it's posted because you know the people on here so I ask why? I understand what you are trying but you also know ahead of time the reaction you are going to get. It is like going to a BLM site and saying police are the good guys.


Put it to you like this , I like speaking with intelligent people. I feel most people on here are rather intelligent, much more then me and many aspects, I honestly don't think I've too bright of a person honestly. It's a wonderful think to have good civil conversations with people. And ive done it Manny many times here.
Ever sat down with someone and had a good long civil conversation where you and that other person shared ideas? It's wonderful. Regardless of there stance on a matter ,being able to exchange ideas with people in a civil educated manner is great.
Yes somtimes I feel the stuff I post could cause controversy to the average type of people, the ones who would prefer to just scream and jump around like children instead of actually think intelligently. But I feel most on here are again rather intelligent,much more then I in many cases I feel ,so most of the time I just don't see that as an issue. I feel most on here would read my posts and really get what I'm saying. Not just fly off the handle. And I've been told many times I shouldn't try because I'm wasting my time because alot of people on here arnt that bright. But I really don't believe that. I've had too many conversations with some on here . So partly I guess it's because I like proving some of those people wrong.
So partly I feel like if I just don't if is stop I'm proving those who said those things correct. I feel isn't a bit insulting to many on here honestly...

I feel ya...sometimes trying to bridge what young folk think and what older folk think is tough. Just try not to make a thread when you're all hot and bothered by something without thinking it through first.

A lot of times we can actually answer our own questions if given a little time (or meditation, prayer, etc). I think for the most part the people on here enjoy/respect your insight, but when you go on a tangent you seem kinda petty. If you're not welcome here than most (or all of us) aren't welcome here either! So, keep on keepin on, and please just remember your audience! We are literally all in this together, and can't afford to alienate ANYONE that enjoys the practice of trapping, because we are all a dying breed! Unfortunately!


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Re: In response to [Re: Wolfdog91] #7699821
10/24/22 08:35 PM
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Basically if it’s something the mods don’t like it gets axed. Just post and see if it’s around the next morning. Keep track of what gets booted and don’t ever bring it up again…problem solved. A lot has to do with who posts it as well.

Re: In response to [Re: Wanna Be] #7699834
10/24/22 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
Basically if it’s something the mods don’t like it gets axed. Just post and see if it’s around the next morning. Keep track of what gets booted and don’t ever bring it up again…problem solved. A lot has to do with who posts it as well.

Yep


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