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|  Well it finally happened, popped jaws
 #7708603 11/04/22 01:26 PM
11/04/22 01:26 PM
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warrior
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I've long said a Duke 1.5 will hold a coyote but it finally come to bite me in the tail. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2022/11/full-2735-155851-screenshot_20221104_131747_facebook.jpg) I still have a few in use as a beater "throw away" trap for high risk/damage areas. I'm switching over to Wolf Creek #2, but set this one in a yard that I thought might see a yard crew. It did. I knew what happened when I walked up to it but the neighbor confirmed. He was wondering why the coyote he saw at sun up was still there at 8. Then wondered where it went when he heard the lawn crew's leaf blowers going. I'm still kicking myself. I know better than to set in a yard but the client insisted. Now I've got to go to dirty tricks on this one. |  |  |  
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|  Re: Well it finally happened, popped jaws
[Re: warrior]
 #7708621 11/04/22 01:39 PM
11/04/22 01:39 PM
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Jerry Jr.
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Why would you intentionally set a 1.5 for coyote? 
 Time is more precious than gold if you know how to spend it
 .... but what do I know, I'm just a dumb farmer.~My Dad
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|  Re: Well it finally happened, popped jaws
[Re: Jerry Jr.]
 #7708633 11/04/22 01:56 PM
11/04/22 01:56 PM
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warrior
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Why would you intentionally set a 1.5 for coyote? Because they work until they don't. I've caught well over a hundred in 1.5s over the last ten years.  But mainly because I work and operate inside the perimeter of Atlanta on an urban landscape. Every trap I set is at risk of discovery by the public or being run over by lawn equipment of all types or even construction equipment. Damage and theft are part of the job. Also when presenting to potential clients and HOAs the smallest "bear trap" is less fearsome than a 650. And while we do have good leash laws the occasional dog occurs and cats can be anywhere. Caught one just last month and the crazy cat lady was able to free it before I could get headed that was. I have plenty of other traps and use those where better security exists and have started switching over to Wolf Creek #2 as they cost about the same but the Wolf Creek is not as foot friendly so there's that issue. |  |  |  
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|  Re: Well it finally happened, popped jaws
[Re: warrior]
 #7708645 11/04/22 02:02 PM
11/04/22 02:02 PM
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MikeTraps2
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Seen that happen to a few  Victor 1 1/2's in PA, and a few 1 3/4 here in Iowa
 My smallest coyote trap is a Bridger #2, had no issues other than bent dogs, held a few HONEST 40 pounder sin the #2's
 
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|  Re: Well it finally happened, popped jaws
[Re: warrior]
 #7708654 11/04/22 02:13 PM
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btomlin
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A high grit grinder paddle wheel on the jaw edge and face of those WCs helps a ton.  Really smooths them out.  I took the offset down some too.  My closed jaws were easier on things than my offsets were.  Just fyi. 
Last edited by btomlin; 11/04/22 02:15 PM.
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|  Re: Well it finally happened, popped jaws
[Re: warrior]
 #7708689 11/04/22 02:50 PM
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patrapperbuster
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LOTS of coyotes have been taken with 1.5 coils but a popped jaw will happen. For you ADC guys who use the 1.5's at times, a spot weld on end of jaw tips may do good if you can get trap to set & fire right 
 TILL THAT DAY.....
 
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|  Re: Well it finally happened, popped jaws
[Re: patrapperbuster]
 #7708713 11/04/22 03:13 PM
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warrior
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LOTS of coyotes have been taken with 1.5 coils but a popped jaw will happen. For you ADC guys who use the 1.5's at times, a spot weld on end of jaw tips may do good if you can get trap to set & fire rightYup, that or baseplate but why drop $ into what's essentially a throw away trap. But I don't weld and would need to pay to have it done. |  |  |  
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|  Re: Well it finally happened, popped jaws
[Re: warrior]
 #7708753 11/04/22 03:43 PM
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Buzzard
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|  Re: Well it finally happened, popped jaws
[Re: warrior]
 #7709166 11/04/22 09:49 PM
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You can fix that problem with a pair of small vice grips, clamp the end of the Jaw just close enough to be able to roll the end up. I've never had jaws pop since I did this maybe 25 years ago.Rich
 
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|  Re: Well it finally happened, popped jaws
[Re: warrior]
 #7709181 11/04/22 09:58 PM
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Yukon John
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Yep, roll them jaw tips up! Will slow them down a bit, but they'll work. Personally I LOVE RJ Duke #2. I know you're dealing with 1.5s, but still like the way the 2s hold the foot. 
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|  Re: Well it finally happened, popped jaws
[Re: warrior]
 #7709275 11/05/22 03:15 AM
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danny clifton
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I would take that bet jbyrd63.  Maybe we can add misses to the list too. we would need to run a line together for a couple 3 weeks to keep score. 
 Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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|  Re: Well it finally happened, popped jaws
[Re: warrior]
 #7709282 11/05/22 04:43 AM
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w side rd 151
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I have a small but growing population of coyotes on my trap line The most I ever caught in one season is . 4 So most of my traps are 1.5 coil springs and are used for red fox and coon .  I have put heavier chain and swivels on nearly all my 1.5 .Plus I replaced most of the springs on the 1.5 's with 1.75 springs or #2 springs .Some time ago I purchased a dozen 1.75 coils for coon trapping in water .I did not like them because I caught a lot of coons that had leg damage I bought some lamination kits for the 1.75.s and had them put on by a friend that is a good welder .I have not had a coyotes pop the jaws on the 1.5 .s but the trap was really bent up on few times .And the coyote was only in by two toes a time or two also .But with the likelihood of catching more coyotes I have been setting more of the 1.75.s with laminated jaws and base plates .And the nice thing about it is the   modified 1.75.s are a better trap for coon as far as eliminating foot damage on coon .Also most of the coyotes in the area I trap are under 50 lbs in weight .  
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