Re: Red Tsunami Ha Ha Haw
[Re: MattLA]
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11/09/22 10:15 PM
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Trump endorsements may have helped a candidate in the primaries, when Republicans had to choose between Republican candidates, but I don’t believe for a second that his endorsements helped an R defeat a D. No way a Trump endorsement swings a voter that wasn’t already going to vote R. It is impossible to know how these candidates would have done without the endorsement - they likely would have won either way. Or what the outcome would have been for those who were endorsed and lost - they may have fared better without the endorsement. Again, no way to know. I don’t dislike Trump, and would happily vote for him again, but I don’t think he offers the best chance for the win. If you can’t see that the Trump ship has sunk, then you are in for more disappointments. (cue the comments about fence sitters, wanting more suffering, stolen elections, me being a liberal, etc…)
Oh I think more people on this website would call me a leftist than you, just saying. I disagree, for many voters Trump is who they trust, if they know he has endorsed a candidate he/she must be good. Ohio 100% would have lost the Senate race if not for the Trump endorsement. He did mess up on PA Senator, and maybe AZ, but we will see. Trump is the only reason future daddy DeSantis is even a governor, Ron almost lost to Andrew Gillium by 0.4%. Yes the same guy who was found in a hotel with a questionable entourage, coked out of his mind. The real problem is the RNC not allocating funds to the Trump candidates who were left to fend on their own, and in some cases they even pulled funding. I also just want to keep saying this, Trump energized an entire group of disenfranchised GOP voters in a way that no other GOP has. Even in Florida, why did Rubio or DeSantis not get it done at a 60%+ win ratio? I get it people even trappers get offended at him talking trash, but his results in office speak for themselves. Good points. I would refute your Desantis comment, he won handily, even in areas that were normally D., without Trump’s endorsement, and even with some trash talking by Trump right before the election. That deserves some pondering. My feeling is that Desantis would stand a better chance than Trump in the general election, and even though that’s not best case scenario, it’s the most probable step in the right direction. My fear would be a Trump loss and 4 more years of Dem policies shoring up (buying) voter support into the future.
I’ve been sayin yes sir all day at work, I’ve been sayin yes ma’am at home…
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Re: Red Tsunami Ha Ha Haw
[Re: AntiGov]
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11/09/22 10:22 PM
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Yup, the radio in the truck went silent the day we lost Brother Rush. No one will replace Rush But I'm liking Dan Bongino (sp) over time by giving him a chance . He's on during the former best three hours of broadcast in my area Of course there's Levin .....but some may be offended I listened to Dan for about five minutes this afternoon on may way to pick up materials. I was curious. He was patting himself on the back for being right that there would be no red wave.
Eh...wot?
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Re: Red Tsunami Ha Ha Haw
[Re: warrior]
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11/09/22 10:33 PM
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Y'all go along to get along Republicans need to come to the very hard realization that the center is gone. It is no longer the safe place of compromise and let's all just get along.
Decades of compromise by the right has gotten the left to within sight of their so called utopia. So close that the gloves are off and they are pulling out all the stops to drag us kicking and screaming at any cost into that hellscape they think they want.
There is only one response to that. A violent one either through the political process of turning out every possible voter, legislation to counter all of the left's effort to subborn the electoral process, electing aggressive leaders like Trump or DeSantis. It won't be won by being pretty and soft spoken.
Or a violent one of last resort where the republic immolates on a pyre of civil war.
X1,000,000 You don’t “seek common ground” or compromise with soulless communist scum. Period. The days of you do your thing and I’ll do mine are gone. Not because of the Right, but due to the fact that the communist filth that has infected our public schools, institutions of higher learning and the Demonrat party can’t tolerate the thought that someone can provide for themself and don’t wish to be dictated to by self righteousness, feckless, useless wannabe tyrants.
Don’t allow an obstacle to become an excuse!
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Re: Red Tsunami Ha Ha Haw
[Re: MattLA]
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11/09/22 10:39 PM
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Same to you about good points, I think DeSantis is a great leader and Im glad I dont have to be in the mix to say ye or nay for 2024. The thing about is if any other person just adopted what Trump did action wise, and wasnt a washington DC swamp dweller I wouldnt mind voting for them. The women in politics are going to become very interesting. Nikki Haley, Tulsi Gabbard and some other national upcoming starpower. I do NOT trust Tulsi! Something just seems awry there...could be wrong though.
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Re: Red Tsunami Ha Ha Haw
[Re: MattLA]
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11/09/22 10:40 PM
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Trump endorsements may have helped a candidate in the primaries, when Republicans had to choose between Republican candidates, but I don’t believe for a second that his endorsements helped an R defeat a D. No way a Trump endorsement swings a voter that wasn’t already going to vote R. It is impossible to know how these candidates would have done without the endorsement - they likely would have won either way. Or what the outcome would have been for those who were endorsed and lost - they may have fared better without the endorsement. Again, no way to know. I don’t dislike Trump, and would happily vote for him again, but I don’t think he offers the best chance for the win. If you can’t see that the Trump ship has sunk, then you are in for more disappointments. (cue the comments about fence sitters, wanting more suffering, stolen elections, me being a liberal, etc…)
Oh I think more people on this website would call me a leftist than you, just saying. I disagree, for many voters Trump is who they trust, if they know he has endorsed a candidate he/she must be good. Ohio 100% would have lost the Senate race if not for the Trump endorsement. He did mess up on PA Senator, and maybe AZ, but we will see. Trump is the only reason future daddy DeSantis is even a governor, Ron almost lost to Andrew Gillium by 0.4%. Yes the same guy who was found in a hotel with a questionable entourage, coked out of his mind. The real problem is the RNC not allocating funds to the Trump candidates who were left to fend on their own, and in some cases they even pulled funding. I also just want to keep saying this, Trump energized an entire group of disenfranchised GOP voters in a way that no other GOP has. Even in Florida, why did Rubio or DeSantis not get it done at a 60%+ win ratio? I get it people even trappers get offended at him talking trash, but his results in office speak for themselves. These rinos just don't realize that Trump could single handedly destroy the republican party once and for all and not in the pearl clutching way they fear. The GOP is facing a Whig moment. Much as the slavery issue split the Whigs, populist conservatism is splitting the Whigs progeny. With one word Donald Trump could form a third party that would strip the GOP of support. Now that would be suicide for both as Trump's wing lacks the infrastructure of the GOP and the GOP is dead without Trump's voters. BTW, Trump's voters for the most part have been with the GOP since Reagan hoping and begging and pleading for action. Holding our noses and voting for rino after rino ever hoping to push the party to respond to our needs. Then Trump came along and shocked everyone, both those who were early adopters or opposed him like myself. That shock was that finally after all these decades was someone who would actually do something wrong wrong or otherwise this guy is a doer not a talker and his heart is in it.
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Re: Red Tsunami Ha Ha Haw
[Re: Yukon John]
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11/09/22 10:48 PM
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Same to you about good points, I think DeSantis is a great leader and Im glad I dont have to be in the mix to say ye or nay for 2024. The thing about is if any other person just adopted what Trump did action wise, and wasnt a washington DC swamp dweller I wouldnt mind voting for them. The women in politics are going to become very interesting. Nikki Haley, Tulsi Gabbard and some other national upcoming starpower. I do NOT trust Tulsi! Something just seems awry there...could be wrong though. Haley is a self serving back stabbing female dog. Just look at her actions and comments following the J6 plansurrection. Tulsi has always seemed to be a straight shooter on what she stands for, unfortunately she has stood for some awful stuff. I welcome her disaffection with the evil party but until I hear her lay out a proper argument for strong constitutional principles and can see a complete repudiation of her past will I consider her anything other than a pet democrat.
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Re: Red Tsunami Ha Ha Haw
[Re: Trap Setter]
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11/09/22 11:46 PM
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Yup anybody who claims to know the outcome of an election before it takes place hasn't been paying attention.
You seem happy about the results, if that's true, maybe you also haven't been paying attention. X2
Never Confuse Stupid With Crazy
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Re: Red Tsunami Ha Ha Haw
[Re: T-Rex]
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11/10/22 06:30 PM
11/10/22 06:30 PM
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I can't believe I fell for Clay Travis for as long as I did. A lifelong DEMOCRAT, voting for his first Republican, Donald Trump. in 2016. The guy is dead to me. I can't believe the widow Limbaugh decided to pass that crap onto us.
Where is Mark Styne when we need him?
I realize Styne and Boco are both Canadiens, but I give Styne a pass.
Man who mistake shillelagh for fairy wand; see pixie dust, also.
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Re: Red Tsunami Ha Ha Haw
[Re: T-Rex]
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11/10/22 07:15 PM
11/10/22 07:15 PM
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Trump scared the pants off of them all....so, they decided to never loose again. I think the elections have been compromised since the first obama election...after the Gore disaster they found a way..thru the internet that Gore established. Trump outsmarted them in 2016 but that will not happen again...
Rise and Rise Again Until Lambs Become Lions
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Re: Red Tsunami Ha Ha Haw
[Re: T-Rex]
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11/10/22 08:45 PM
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The assumption has long been that the chamber would go red. But this election has certainly tested plenty of assumptions.
Democrats have been projected as the winners in 188 House districts, while 208 have gone to the Republicans. The magic number for a majority is 218, so Republicans are obviously much closer.
But those raw numbers are misleading: Most of the yet-to-be-decided districts are out West — read: Arizona, California, Nevada, Oregon and Washington — where the vote counting is slower, and most lean blue. There are seven clearly blue-leaning districts in California alone that don’t have enough votes in to be called, but are very unlikely to flip.
That leaves about 30 potentially competitive but uncalled races. Republicans would only need to win 10 to get their House majority. As things stand, the latest election results show them leading in 12 of the outstanding districts. But many of the races feature substantial numbers of uncounted votes, meaning there could be significant shifts — in either direction — depending on which precincts the uncounted votes are coming from.
What seems clear is that the margin in the House is going to be much slimmer than Republicans had hoped, and the GOP being in control seems less of a foregone conclusion than it did even 24 hours ago.
Rise and Rise Again Until Lambs Become Lions
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Re: Red Tsunami Ha Ha Haw
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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11/10/22 08:48 PM
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Mark June
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Still counting votes two days after the election. What a joke. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2022/11/full-50422-156709-lepar.jpeg)
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