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|  History and Simon Kenton
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Am I right in saying Simon Kenton didn't get the recognition he deserved. It seems to me he was up there or above Boone, Crockett, and the like. Other than Allan Eckert and maybe a few publications, I wonder why he sort of takes a back seat. I'd sure like to see a movie or another book about him. 
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|  Re: History and Simon Kenton
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Am I right in saying Simon Kenton didn't get the recognition he deserved. It seems to me he was up there or above Boone, Crockett, and the like. Other than Allan Eckert and maybe a few publications, I wonder why he sort of takes a back seat. I'd sure like to see a movie or another book about him.  Yup, heck of a story! Make a heck of a movie, but these days he' d be cast as a trigendered, LBGQBBQEIEIO furry revolutionary Marxist! |  |  |  
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|  Re: History and Simon Kenton
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I’ve always been high on Simon Kenton. If it weren’t for him Boone’s life story would have ended early.Yes sir! I just wonder if it was because he was one that shied away from notoriety or if he kinda got screwed over. I was introduced to Kenton back in the 80's by my FIL. He was certain that Kenton made Boone look like he never left his front porch lol.  I think Boone was for sure a big part of expansion, and deserving of the publicity. I think Kenton should be too. Most don't know who he is but they recognize Boone, Crockett, Bridger etc. 
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|  Re: History and Simon Kenton
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A lot of eastern pioneers have been forgotten,for some reason.The western pioneers got all the glory.Once I discovered Allen Eckert's writings I became fascinated with the pioneers of the eastern seaboard.Its like undiscovered U.S. history. 
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|  Re: History and Simon Kenton
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I had never heard of him, or dent recall hearing of him. I’m gonna see what I can find to read about him, thanks guysGet a hold of Allen Eckert's book, The Frontiersman. |  |  |  
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The Frontiersman should have been a movie, so many side stories.I agree and can't believe they didn't make a movie or three of it.   ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2022/11/full-46733-157597-img_5237.jpg) 
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If I remember correctly Kenton had some land deals that didn't work out, which eventually caused him to fade historically.
Yeah, they took his land. Boone too.  Boone got so fed up with it that he moved to Missouri.  Neither one of those two were good businessmen. Kenton was illiterate and Boone not much better and it was relatively easy for the land sharks to come in after the country was tamed and legally take it away from the the original settlers and frontiersmen that had made tomahawk improvements.   Some poetic justice here I guess.  The pioneers stole the land from the  Indians and then the lawyers stole it back from them.    Boone settled  not far from St. Charles.  He and his son Nathan made a nice two story stone house there that stands to this day.  Well worth seeing if you're in the area.    Just a few miles off the Interstate 44 close to a town named Defiance, Mo. Poor  old Simon died a pauper subsisting on a $20 a month stipend from the government. |  |  |  
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Am I right in saying Simon Kenton didn't get the recognition he deserved.  I agree.    Boone had others chronicling him, (Draper and others), Simon didn't, except for modern day author Alan Eckert.    They even had artists of the day making portraits of Boone and his wife Rebecca.    During the 1830s,  Kentucky fathers came to Missouri and dug up what they thought was Boones grave and took it back to Kentucky for re-burial.  He became the famous patron saint of Old Kentucky only after he was dead.   Simon didn't have any of that notoriety and if it were not for Alan Eckert, Simon Kenton would be just one more obscure 1770s frontiersman and longhunter.   |  |  |  
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Am I right in saying Simon Kenton didn't get the recognition he deserved.  I agree.    Boone had others chronicling him, (Draper and others), Simon didn't, except for modern day author Alan Eckert.    They even had artists of the day making portraits of Boone and his wife Rebecca.    During the 1830s,  Kentucky fathers came to Missouri and dug up what they thought was Boones grave and took it back to Kentucky for re-burial.   Simon didn't have any of that notoriety and if it were not for Alan Eckert, Simon Kenton would be just one more obscure 1770s frontiersman and longhunter.  Well said! 
 I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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