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Re: So Far This Season... [Re: Boy Named Sue] #7722065
11/19/22 09:15 PM
11/19/22 09:15 PM
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Newark, Ohio 81 years
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Originally Posted by Boy Named Sue
Actor, thank you for the ride along.
Do you have an opinion as to the current high ratio of male rats to female?
If you continue having trouble catching coon, try putting in your best coyote sit. grin



Thank You Sue... blush I am to believe it is from chemical of some type. Possibly one or some of the heavy metals in the waters. I know there was a study in Florida on alligators. The problem there, was there were too many females in the one water system of lakes. It turned out that it came from the sewer system and the substance in the water was female hormones that were coming from birth control pills. I am thinking it was estrogen. Like many biological species, including humans, during our first development, while in the first embryo stages we are neither male or female. I don't know what causes the final development of one over the other, but allegedly at this point the hormones in the water was causing them to become female.

Maybe there is Viagra in our water. I don't know, but whatever it is, the embryos are turning into males instead of females. As soon as we figure this out, we can than figure out what caused the universe... since I don't believe in the Big Bang Theory.

I know what you mean about coyote sets... I used to have the same problem with fox sets, back when we had fox. And when you try and catch coon ... well... you catch possums.

Thank everyone for the replies.

Garry-


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Re: So Far This Season... [Re: Actor] #7722073
11/19/22 09:24 PM
11/19/22 09:24 PM
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South Alabama
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That’s interesting. Here quail and turkeys are on a decline. I wonder if the ratio of the genders is off in these species. Turkeys are a big deal here and I would be curious to know if the folks studying the problem are considering gender imbalances.


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Re: So Far This Season... [Re: Actor] #7722101
11/19/22 10:08 PM
11/19/22 10:08 PM
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NATURE IN DRAG: MALE GATORS BECOMING FEMALE

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1994-09-03-9409010609-story.html

Here is an article about the gator problem... I was aware of it back in the 1980s, but I guess the study is still going on. there is some interesting info here.

You read around all of the garbage advertisements, but it read quite a way down the page.

Garry-


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Re: So Far This Season... [Re: Actor] #7722162
11/20/22 12:35 AM
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Actor - very enjoyable walk along!

Very interesting comments about the demise of muskrats. 45 years ago in my part of Ohio, every body of water held muskrats that could be trapped every year. Now, they are difficult to find.

One of my theories is that the ph of the water is too acidic which for some reason muskrats cannot tolerate. On a recent nuisance beaver trapping job, I scouted and set MB750 traps to cover all runs. The traps had an average or more coat of rust. There was no wax over the rust. The traps were in the water for a week. After that week, the rust had turned black and wiped off easily leaving bare shiny metal. Those ponds were ideal muskrat habitat with high banks for secure sound dens, plenty of plants in the water for food, good cover around the ponds, and rare intrusion by people. I saw no sign of muskrats. I did catch one muskrat in a beaver trap. At this location there is zero beaver tolerance. So the beavers were not displacing the muskrats. Have you encountered water which was acidic enough to remove rust?


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Re: So Far This Season... [Re: Actor] #7722350
11/20/22 09:40 AM
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Good write up to follow
What I found with low rat populations the males travel further in search of love, but with high numbers they darn not get beat up every night
that may explain you high male catch

There is one element in trapping in that sometimes we OTI (over think it)

Re: So Far This Season... [Re: Actor] #7722482
11/20/22 12:01 PM
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Actor thanks for fringing back a memory from long ago

Before I moved to Alaska and being born where the sewer meets the sea I spent my years in the 60’s making a part of my living on the ocean. Along with boat, surf fishing I ran a small lobster /crab pot operation. It was there that I became aware of the barometric pressure signals to critters. When I would pull a lobster pot and the lobsters would be clinging to the wire trap and I would have to almost pry them loose it was a sign that within a couple days we would get a south east storm, which would be too rough to fish. It could only be the barometric pressure that gave them the clue to hang on even though they were from over 100 feet of water!

Great thread and keep doing!


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