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Re: Going rate for beef. [Re: trapperkeck] #7721595
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We get $4/ pound hanging weight, customers pay butcher and processing fees, itís not a get rice quick scheme, but itís a good way to spend your kids inheritance.

Re: Going rate for beef. [Re: trapperkeck] #7721596
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Here most people take the price from the USDA dressed price average which is what packers are paying for beef then the last I heard it was 2500 to get an entire beef done with minimal grinding, we do our own so I donít have first hand knowledge of a price on the processing.

Re: Going rate for beef. [Re: trapperkeck] #7721597
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$5/lb in the freezer

Re: Going rate for beef. [Re: trapperkeck] #7721616
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USDA prime beef on the hoof, 1400 lbs. @1.65= $2310.00, will hang 900lbs and will cut and wrap 625 lbs to the freezer. Total wholesale cost with processing is 3000.00 or $4.80. a lb.

Re: Going rate for beef. [Re: trapperkeck] #7721617
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Further you are from western KS, OK and TX panhandles the more it will cost. The beef you buy at your local retail outlet is being fed out and processed in that part of the world. You buy from a local producer in NY the cost in feed is twice as much and so the beef cost is higher. All those beef cattle you see east of the Mississippi, west of the divide, north of I80 and south of I40, are cow calf business. ( a few exceptions but very few) They sell calves that are trucked to western KS, OK and TX panhandles to get fed out and slaughtered. Weather plays a big part in gain per pound of feed. Not only good weather but grain, pastures and hay production in that part of the world are conducive to profitable feedlot operations


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Re: Going rate for beef. [Re: newfox1] #7721618
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Originally Posted by newfox1
We get $4/ pound hanging weight, customers pay butcher and processing fees, itís not a get rice quick scheme, but itís a good way to spend your kids inheritance.

That would be $2.60 on the hoof, I could get rich on that.

Re: Going rate for beef. [Re: newfox1] #7721627
11/19/22 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by newfox1
We get $4/ pound hanging weight, customers pay butcher and processing fees, itís not a get rice quick scheme, but itís a good way to spend your kids inheritance.


For four years now weíve raised finish beef to sell, just a small operation. This year we have 22 beef in the pasture feedlot. We are asking $4.75 for a half, and $4.25 a pound for a whole, Based on hanging weight. Plus $165 harvest fee for a whole. And the butcher is $1.10 a pound per hanging weight for a cut and wrap.

This year our hay, and grain prices have nearly doubled from last year. I also have a lot of fuel (Diesel is $6 gallon). And we have tons of time into the operation!! I honestly would be hesitant to calculate how much per hour we makeÖ

The beef is pasture raised, all natural. And finished on a barley oat corn pellet for the last 120 to 150 days. The quality of the meat is excellent! Customers always come back.

I canít agree with this more: it is NOT they get rich quick scheme, but itís a great way to spend your kids inheritance!!!


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Re: Going rate for beef. [Re: Diggerman] #7721635
11/19/22 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
USDA prime beef on the hoof, 1400 lbs. @1.65= $2310.00, will hang 900lbs and will cut and wrap 625 lbs to the freezer. Total wholesale cost with processing is 3000.00 or $4.80. a lb.


Looks good on paper, good luck,lol

Re: Going rate for beef. [Re: Gary Benson] #7721644
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
After paying hanging weight, what % do you lose in bone?


Gary I talked with a butcher on this here's what he said:
Most calves dress around 55 percent some a little better some a little less, then from there the package meat is 60/40 60 being packaged I've also done the math on a few and it's real close to that, best I've seen one dress is 58 percent worst was 52...

Re: Going rate for beef. [Re: trapperkeck] #7721734
11/19/22 01:33 PM
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Live Weight is how much the cow, pig or lamb weighs when itís alive, on the hoof.

Hanging Weight is a weight the butcher gives us after the animal has been killed, blood drained, head, hide, feet, entrails & organs removed. The hanging weight is usually about 60% of the live weight. So if a cow weighs 1000 lbs live weight its hanging weight will be 600 lbs.


Packaged weight is what goes in the freezer. 65-70% of hanging weight IF you get some cuts bone in.

Nate you need an honest butcher

Fat cattle, live weight right now is about a 1.53 a pound. https://markets.businessinsider.com/commodities/live-cattle-price

So live animal ready to slaughter at 1200 pounds should bring about 1836 bucks. 60% of 1200 pounds is 720. 720 X 3.50 is 2520 bucks. So if the producer gets 2100 for the animal, the butcher gets 420 to process it, then you end up buying about 468 pounds of packaged meat for 5 dollars and 40 cents a pound. you get aged beef and not walmart mystery meat. Hamburger steak and roasts. Cheaper than buying the same cuts and burger at any retail outlet.

So you save money, the producer makes a little more and the processor makes an honest profit. Everybody wins. Only way to buy beef IMO


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Re: Going rate for beef. [Re: trapperkeck] #7721749
11/19/22 01:57 PM
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Well out here there is a outfit selling butchered in the box whole beef 5.70lb,half beef5.90 ,quarter beef 6.25 that is grass fed cattle no grain finish. whistle


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Re: Going rate for beef. [Re: trapperkeck] #7721877
11/19/22 06:22 PM
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Oh, heck..



There's a guy down at the strip mall selling 40 ribeyes for $20



Plus shrimps, lobsters, and crab legs.



Re: Going rate for beef. [Re: trapperkeck] #7721972
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Look up H bar k beef


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Re: Going rate for beef. [Re: danny clifton] #7722121
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Live Weight is how much the cow, pig or lamb weighs when itís alive, on the hoof.

Hanging Weight is a weight the butcher gives us after the animal has been killed, blood drained, head, hide, feet, entrails & organs removed. The hanging weight is usually about 60% of the live weight. So if a cow weighs 1000 lbs live weight its hanging weight will be 600 lbs.


Packaged weight is what goes in the freezer. 65-70% of hanging weight IF you get some cuts bone in.

Nate you need an honest butcher

Fat cattle, live weight right now is about a 1.53 a pound. https://markets.businessinsider.com/commodities/live-cattle-price

So live animal ready to slaughter at 1200 pounds should bring about 1836 bucks. 60% of 1200 pounds is 720. 720 X 3.50 is 2520 bucks. So if the producer gets 2100 for the animal, the butcher gets 420 to process it, then you end up buying about 468 pounds of packaged meat for 5 dollars and 40 cents a pound. you get aged beef and not walmart mystery meat. Hamburger steak and roasts. Cheaper than buying the same cuts and burger at any retail outlet.

So you save money, the producer makes a little more and the processor makes an honest profit. Everybody wins. Only way to buy beef IMO


Danny,
Like I said looks good on paper, take one yourself and do the math. I can tell you very few calves on the farm will dress 60 percent. Each is individual, paper is a guide line and a very poor one, I would never buy a 1000 lb.calf and just pay hanging weight price without weighing it.


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Re: Going rate for beef. [Re: trapperkeck] #7722243
11/20/22 07:23 AM
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I have two more deer tags, that's all I have to say about it.

Re: Going rate for beef. [Re: trapperkeck] #7722268
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I looked up hamburger on Walmarts website. For 93% lean its 5.56 a pound in Ottawa KS. If you get beef processed at a local shop your hamburger should be lean like that. Just enough fat to stick it together good rather than a skillet full of grease like you get with the cheap stuff.


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Re: Going rate for beef. [Re: Providence Farm] #7722274
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by yukonjeff
Every family in this town, and every town withing 500 miles of here processes their own moose in their kitchen.

You all should be deeply ashamed of yourselves. smile



While I agree with you we all don't live where it will stay cold enough to leave it hang outside. So I'm planning I n a walk in cooler or refrigated trailer. But that's a bit of money I have not set a side for it yet.


If you have a small shed you can put in a window ac unit and keep it pretty cool, don't have to get to fancy unless you want to.

Re: Going rate for beef. [Re: trapperkeck] #7722326
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Donner just last night some new customers came out and bought a couple chickens
The guy was telling me about a valve or something you can put on a window unit and get them to run down to 34į I don't know if that accurate but I think in the 40s would be cold enough.

I could never justify the time and expense for a cooler just fore the 4 to 10 deer the boys shoot a year. But with my wife's CSA's and cut flowers sales it would be used for more Than just deer add in butchering cows and it makes financial since. I definitely need to look into budget options..

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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Donner just last night some new customers came out and bought a couple chickens
The guy was telling me about a valve or something you can put on a window unit and get them to run down to 34į I don't know if that accurate but I think in the 40s would be cold enough.

I could never justify the time and expense for a cooler just fore the 4 to 10 deer the boys shoot a year. But with my wife's CSA's and cut flowers sales it would be used for more Than just deer add in butchering cows and it makes financial since. I definitely need to look into budget options..


We've just used an old window unit that didn't have a thermostat, turn it all the way cold and it kept a small garage plenty cold.

I'm planning on building a hanging shed, built into the side of a hill out of concrete blocks and one window for an ac unit, I should be around $1,000 into it if I do it myself and scrounge a few materials.

Re: Going rate for beef. [Re: Providence Farm] #7722399
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Donner just last night some new customers came out and bought a couple chickens
The guy was telling me about a valve or something you can put on a window unit and get them to run down to 34į I don't know if that accurate but I think in the 40s would be cold enough.

I could never justify the time and expense for a cooler just fore the 4 to 10 deer the boys shoot a year. But with my wife's CSA's and cut flowers sales it would be used for more Than just deer add in butchering cows and it makes financial since. I definitely need to look into budget options..


You would need to install a heating device to cycle on//off and shut the AC off/on to keep the coils from freezing up, if you want it to freeze it should cool to 40 - 45 other wise.

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