Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer
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11/21/22 09:23 AM
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I have a cousin that's having issues with a very poor example of a conservation officer over the last few years. My cousin has permission to hunt 40acres behind his house. 2 years ago he took his wife hunting and she shot a very nice buck. It ran across a road and a truck shot several shots at the deer from the road then quickly worked on leading it. Naturally the CO was called. The blood trail was obvious the hole in the deer came from the opposite side that the direction the guy in the truck was shooting from. Not even mentioning that shooting feonm a vehicle is illegal. But the poacher is a big money land owner and the deer expired on his ground, the CO hunts his property AND rents a house from the guy. Let's just say it was a very sad day for the Indiana Conservation officers that day and left a very negative impact on a young woman trying to do the right think and tag her first buck.
Two formal complaints were dismissed. . Yesterday evening my cousin now geting divorced so only his 2nd time hunting shot a 180 + hit it hard and again when it stoped at the wood line. Blood out of this world but crossed the property line again.
He backed out to make some calls going to try to get a CO to help him recover his deer. Little did he know the same CO from before would come out to him getting in his face where he has permission to be and accuse him of trespassing, killing his deer he has been hunting since October, treating to take him to jail and being a basic antler crazed jack booted thug. He not only won't help him recover his deer but does not want him to and want it for himself. He said he would send him some pictures of it if he finds it.It's a very sad thing and will not be corrected becust the guy is connected. Formal complaints do no good .
It gives our very good Conservation officers a bad name but I'm sure they also know how he is or at least have herd rumors of it by now so at best are complicit. It's hard to teach my kids respect for them when they hear about this type of behavior from a cousin they really look up to.
Just thought I would share some examples and experience on why I don't always jump on the back the blue band wagon and prefere to keep them art arms length. And why many people distrust them. It only takes a few bad ones to run the batch.
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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer
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11/21/22 09:34 AM
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You become part of the problem by grouping "them" all together.
Does one "bad" egg make the entire dozen bad?
Come on! Teach you kids and yourself how to single out the good from the bad.
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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer
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11/21/22 09:50 AM
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Does Indiana have retrieval rights of wounded game is my question if ends up on private property? Here unarmed retrieval applies to small game but not to big game.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer
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11/21/22 09:53 AM
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You become part of the problem by grouping "them" all together.
Does one "bad" egg make the entire dozen bad?
Come on! Teach you kids and yourself how to single out the good from the bad.
I'm sorry you got that from my post. I thought it was Cristal clear this turd leaves a much larger stain on the hard working honest salt of the earth CO'S. But they don't police their own. Just because someone is law enforcement they don't get a free pass they get heald to higher standards. The officer is also from a politically connected family in the county. Short of video of the events nothing will happen and there is none of that. And if there was it would likely go nowhere. Have you ever been at a point in your life when your so low your hanging by a thread? Like say maybe getting divorced and you have very little keeping you sane. That jack boot has no idea how close he came to being a 15 min hero. On the news.. A true piece of scum stomping on someone doing everything right and legal becuse he is jealous a deer he wanted to kill was killed by someone else. I'm going to see if my cousin wants me to take the boys down and have them tag out on that county. I will get video.
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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer
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11/21/22 09:57 AM
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Does Indiana have retrieval rights of wounded game is my question if ends up on private property? Here unarmed retrieval applies to small game but not to big game. Must have land owner permission
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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer
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11/21/22 10:03 AM
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Sick the divorce lawyer on him, they like big bucks.
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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer
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11/21/22 10:12 AM
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Does he hunt close to the property line? I have seen deer with a lethal hit go 80 to 100 yards, smart play is to back off the property line so this doesn't happen. I put my farm in wildlife habitat and have had people sit right behind my house on the line. I just go tell them to back off because if they shoot one and it runs into my cover they aren't going after it. If I let them, my place would be surrounded and I have also had people shoot across the line.
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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer
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11/21/22 10:14 AM
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Well your cousin could blast the dude and the organization on Facebook. I mean posting on their pages, not just his own. Seems like that’s how people fight nowadays. We're not much on social media. I thought about calling the head dnr office in the capital but without any proof we are just hear say at best.
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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer
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11/21/22 10:33 AM
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Does Indiana have retrieval rights of wounded game is my question if ends up on private property? Here unarmed retrieval applies to small game but not to big game. Must have land owner permission So is that the issue here or am I missing something not enforcing the road hunting should be addressed but go outside the area or you will get no place fast. If there is no retrieval and the deer is on private ground I don’t see a case about that, landowner rights. The right thing and the law don’t go hand in hand every time and is abused by some because they can.
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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer
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11/21/22 10:52 AM
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He should ask for the officer's body cam video. (Disregard this as I just went back and read where there is no officer video)
Any future encounters he should video the officer himself with his phone.
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