Re: new meth story
[Re: Buck (Zandra)]
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11/20/22 01:46 PM
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Legalize it all get some revenue from taxes and let the problem sort its self out Sure.That'll work great Well keep doing the same thing that been working so well then.. How many decades and dollars have been spent on the war on drugs? Am I missing how it's had any positive effect?
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Re: new meth story
[Re: Crowfoot]
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11/20/22 01:49 PM
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Those scabs on those sores evidently contain meth and they eat them off each other in jail. The genital warts are rich too, and fetch a hefty sum ..... if consumed fresh.  They dont have to be in jail to do scabs ,seen it while setting in a parking lot one day ,guy was peeling his own and eating them . the new craze is (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) , they save there own and drink it on hard times , messed up world and getting worse.
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Re: new meth story
[Re: danny clifton]
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11/20/22 03:10 PM
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Buck (Zandra)
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You're not going to win the war on drugs anymore than winning the war on robbery,rape and murder.How much money has been spent on the destruction caused by drugs?Taxpayers pick up the bill for rehab for a good many of them because the users can't afford it,what has that bill totaled up to since drug use exploded from the 1960's to present?Private companies that offer employees or in some cases union/management contracts that stipulate rehab programs for employees(instead of firing them) that get passed to the consumer?Tax payer funded programs that provide clean needles or free drugs(in the ridiculous theory that free dope will stop them from robbing and stealing to obtain more dope),how much has that cost?How about the homeless problem in our major cities most of which stem from drug problems,what does that bill run?The answer to this is cut and run,let them have anything they want legally?Yes,their getting it illegally now but it comes at a cost to the user when they get caught.And what kind of message does this send to our youth?Smoking crack or meth is no different than drinking beer once you turn 21?Your going to tax it and use the revenue?Its already an illegal trade,why would they go government and pay taxes on something they get cheap with no taxes now?There is no answer to this problem,legalizing it does nothing more than trading one set of problems for another.But sanctioning it as legal and make it as prevalent as cigarettes and alcohol sure aren't steps in the right direction.
Buck(formely known as Zandra)
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Re: new meth story
[Re: Buck (Zandra)]
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11/20/22 03:18 PM
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You're not going to win the war on drugs anymore than winning the war on robbery,rape and murder.How much money has been spent on the destruction caused by drugs?Taxpayers pick up the bill for rehab for a good many of them because the users can't afford it,what has that bill totaled up to since drug use exploded from the 1960's to present?Private companies that offer employees or in some cases union/management contracts that stipulate rehab programs for employees(instead of firing them) that get passed to the consumer?Tax payer funded programs that provide clean needles or free drugs(in the ridiculous theory that free dope will stop them from robbing and stealing to obtain more dope),how much has that cost?How about the homeless problem in our major cities most of which stem from drug problems,what does that bill run?The answer to this is cut and run,let them have anything they want legally?Yes,their getting it illegally now but it comes at a cost to the user when they get caught.And what kind of message does this send to our youth?Smoking crack or meth is no different than drinking beer once you turn 21?Your going to tax it and use the revenue?Its already an illegal trade,why would they go government and pay taxes on something they get cheap with no taxes now?There is no answer to this problem,legalizing it does nothing more than trading one set of problems for another.But sanctioning it as legal and make it as prevalent as cigarettes and alcohol sure aren't steps in the right direction. So no suggestion just complaining. Your correct on the many hidden cost of drugs. If made legal narcan and treating people that od should be made illegal. But that won't happen. The jack wagon that cut his leg off will now get a government disability check o ce he ge t s done with his government hotel stay if he even gets convinced. It's time to crap or get off the pot. Either get ruthlessly tough on drugs and crime or let it go. We know they are not going to get hard on crime
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Re: new meth story
[Re: danny clifton]
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11/20/22 04:50 PM
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The answer in my view is get ruthlessly tough on drugs.Many countries overseas that have extremely tough drug laws don't have the drug problem that we have and the answer is simple:they don't fool around,you get caught and you Will suffer the consequences ,no amount of crying racism or illegal arrest will save you.But that's the problem here,nobody will get tough with the problem,half the time its treated like a joke or its passed off as some kind of right of passage for kids today,and they still throw up the alcohol vs.drug debate,well shooting heroin or meth isn't the same as slugging down a shot of whisky.There are answers for the problem but nobody will deal with it,politically the first thing thatll get thrown at you is your a racist or discriminating against the poor since these areas traditionally are drug centers,and claims will be leveled that nothing is being done about middle class and upper class drug use.And on and on it goes.Thats why nothing changes in this war.I admit that.But I'd prefer that status quo over making the public accept any and all use normal ,legal,and part of everyday life for anybody over 21.
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Re: new meth story
[Re: danny clifton]
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11/20/22 04:59 PM
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I don't look at it as doing nothing but complaining with no suggestions,it's just accepting it is what it is.As I said earlier we have laws against murder,rape, robbery,car jacking,kidnapping,sex trafficking,etc.,but our prisons are full of people breaking these laws.Your not going to stop them any more than your going to stop drug use.I believe letting the inmates run the asylum is going to be far more disastrous than what's happening now.
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Re: new meth story
[Re: Buck (Zandra)]
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11/20/22 10:15 PM
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I don't look at it as doing nothing but complaining with no suggestions,it's just accepting it is what it is.As I said earlier we have laws against murder,rape, robbery,car jacking,kidnapping,sex trafficking,etc.,but our prisons are full of people breaking these laws.Your not going to stop them any more than your going to stop drug use.I believe letting the inmates run the asylum is going to be far more disastrous than what's happening now. The prisons are full of drug offenders. So they let the violent offenders walk and out early. Hard on crime needs to happen, swift and public executions. And not handling criminals like they are saint's. Our country is to far gone for the correction to occur. From hear on out everything will be things that further destroy her.
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Re: new meth story
[Re: danny clifton]
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11/21/22 09:22 AM
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Re: new meth story
[Re: danny clifton]
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11/21/22 10:22 AM
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I honestly don't understand why drug manufactures or dealers would put such a deadly substance into there formula. Why would they want their clientele dead? That Krocodil they have in Eastern Europe is about the nastiest thing on earth. They say it will rot your body from the outside in and you'll be dead within a year of starting on it. You have no chance of getting off it, it's that addictive. Just such a messed up world. There's a couple youtube videos on it.
Nowadays it just don't pay to be a good 'ol boy.
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Re: new meth story
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11/21/22 01:08 PM
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Well keep doing the same thing that been working so well then..
How many decades and dollars have been spent on the war on drugs? Am I missing how it's had any positive effect?
Love ya PF, but please explain how legalizing/decriminalizing drugs can honestly help our society? As stated, you can't beat it but if you don't fight it does anyone honestly thing it will get better? If we really want to fight drugs, it starts at the home. Drugs used to have stigma attached to them. Now people want to attach freedom and liberty to personal drug use regardless of the societal damage it does. When we have lawyers who actually defend drug dealers and keep them warm and fed in the penal system, there is little to no deterrent. Even if they are found guilty, vulture lawyers still get more money on appeals even though the drug dealer is guilty. Start executing drug dealers. No appeals. No warm and fed. Just death. Painful death. If you want to win the war on drugs, change the laws. Just be careful, lawyers will not like losing their income stream. They will all of a sudden be concerned with "justice".
How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
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