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Re: Young cedars [Re: AJE] #7707334
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Juniper ? Local names confuse things .


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Re: Young cedars [Re: g smith] #7707337
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Originally Posted by g smith
Juniper ? Local names confuse things .


You are asking me to go back 35 years in time where I got a C-?


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Re: Young cedars [Re: AJE] #7707341
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White cedar leaf is boiled down into cedar leaf oil.
A fellow that does that sells the oil in 45 gallon drums for 50g per drum wholesale.
Takes a few dumptruck loads of cedarleaf for a drum of oil.
Small 1oz bottles of cedarleaf oil sell for $20 retail.

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Re: Young cedars [Re: AJE] #7707383
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Juniper is a large family of conifers that have a circumpolar distribution in the northern hemisphere. They are even used as an herb for flavored food or gin.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juniper

Re: Young cedars [Re: AJE] #7707395
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Cypress has similar issues as does many others like Douglas Fir which is not a fir.

There is lots of confusion across the board in the local names of conifers.

Heck, we got one down here called a Spruce Pine. It's a yellow pine that looks more like a white pine than a yellow one and a true spruce wouldn't survive our heat.

Re: Young cedars [Re: AJE] #7707400
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Slight correction, blue spruce are often planted as ornamentals in the upper south but they are short lived.

Re: Young cedars [Re: AJE] #7707401
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Our bald and pond cypress aren't true cypress either.

Re: Young cedars [Re: AJE] #7713571
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Cedars seem to make a nice barrier from neighbors

Re: Young cedars [Re: warrior] #7724677
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Originally Posted by warrior
Down here red cedars are preferred by the bucks for making rubs. It's not uncommon for every broom handle sized stem in sight to rubbed. I've suspect there's something to the aromatics in the sap and wood carrying the aroma from the preobital glands.

Maybe one of our lure makers could chime in on that theory?

Cedars definetely have a noticeable aroma

Re: Young cedars [Re: AJE] #7724772
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Thank you for the interesting observations on cedars, warrior.


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Re: Young cedars [Re: VaBeagler] #7724781
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Originally Posted by VaBeagler
If you have cedars that is a sure Tell sign of shitty land. Land will not perk. Cedars thrive in pipeclay and crappy land

We find Cedars here mostly on swamp edges.


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Re: Young cedars [Re: upstateNY] #7725596
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Originally Posted by upstateNY
Originally Posted by VaBeagler
If you have cedars that is a sure Tell sign of shitty land. Land will not perk. Cedars thrive in pipeclay and crappy land

We find Cedars here mostly on swamp edges.

Probably near Tamaract trees

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Eastern red cedar where I live is the life blood of the community. 4 sawmills in a 5 mile radius that mills them.

Re: Young cedars [Re: VaBeagler] #7725647
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Originally Posted by VaBeagler
If you have cedars that is a sure Tell sign of shitty land. Land will not perk. Cedars thrive in pipeclay and crappy land


I think it may differ in different parts of the country. Here Eastern White Cedar is important for the deer in the winter. They will yard up in the Cedar groves where there is less snow and I is often a degree or two warmer there.


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Re: Young cedars [Re: AJE] #7727862
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They are a neat tree & can add some diversity to a property

Re: Young cedars [Re: warrior] #7727868
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I have never heard the term "circumpolar" used before, but I knew exactly what it meant the second I heard it. Thanks

Re: Young cedars [Re: AJE] #7729564
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I haven't heard of that term either Swole.

Re: Young cedars [Re: AJE] #7729580
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My wife absolutely detests cedar trees.. because of the fact that during our first Christmas together,, we had no money, so I found a cedar tree for a Christmas tree. She was vacuuming pieces of cedar out of the shag carpet for weeks.. lol


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Re: Young cedars [Re: foxkidd44] #7729588
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Originally Posted by foxkidd44
My wife absolutely detests cedar trees.. because of the fact that during our first Christmas together,, we had no money, so I found a cedar tree for a Christmas tree. She was vacuuming pieces of cedar out of the shag carpet for weeks.. lol


Dad and I were just discussing this.

He said he remembered going out and cutting cedars for Christmas.

Told him that my most memorable Christmas was my third one and a big cedar tree all lit up in the living room and that we made out like bandits that year.

He smiled at that for some reason.

Re: Young cedars [Re: Trapper5123] #7729592
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Originally Posted by Trapper5123
Eastern red cedar where I live is the life blood of the community. 4 sawmills in a 5 mile radius that mills them.


I wouldn't say lifeblood but there is a market for them from time to time. We got one bottom on our homeplace that is thin soil over soft limerock where cedar thrives. Matter of fact we call it the cedar thicket. We leave it alone until the local buyers put out a call for it.

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