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Random Drug Screening #7728982
11/28/22 01:01 PM
11/28/22 01:01 PM
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Eastern Shore of Maryland
HobbieTrapper Offline OP
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What is the chance we can get a politician to do away with this?


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Re: Random Drug Screening [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7728988
11/28/22 01:13 PM
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I think random drug screening should be mandatory for all politicians.


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Re: Random Drug Screening [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7728992
11/28/22 01:21 PM
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I’d rather they have to pass a common sense test.


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Re: Random Drug Screening [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7728996
11/28/22 01:25 PM
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monadnock region New Hampshire
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im suprised there hasnt been a discrimination case on this already. or class action suit.

Re: Random Drug Screening [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7728999
11/28/22 01:28 PM
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As far as commerce is concerned, NADA. Most companies are required, or have, State and Federal Safety Guidelines that "must"(?) be adhered to in order to maintain such business. . . . plus, the gov. makes $$$$ off "mandatory" training for employees.


"Humans are the hardest people to get along with."
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Re: Random Drug Screening [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7729001
11/28/22 01:31 PM
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Have been doing it for decades. Never had a problem. I can see how it bothers some people. Wouldn't bother me either way whether they do away with it or not


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Re: Random Drug Screening [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7729008
11/28/22 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
I’d rather they have to pass a common sense test.


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Re: Random Drug Screening [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7729013
11/28/22 01:54 PM
11/28/22 01:54 PM
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There are problems with guilty until proven innocent random testing, however if there is a job related accident, or drawing taxpayer money for welfare, or blatant in your face drug activity at work....Test away!


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Re: Random Drug Screening [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7729015
11/28/22 01:59 PM
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I assume your asking for interstate truck drivers?

I don't really see an issue with Randoms it is an inconvenience I am sure for the drivers

and I agree politicians should to prove they are clean same as truckers and pilots , huge amount of public responsibility there.

an issue now is most factories here you get a "random" when you get hurt or have an accident other than that they don't want to know they wouldn't have half their labor if they needed to be clean all the time.

Last edited by GREENCOUNTYPETE; 11/28/22 02:01 PM.

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Re: Random Drug Screening [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7729022
11/28/22 02:06 PM
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Drug testing politicians is as likely as an honest election.


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Re: Random Drug Screening [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7729032
11/28/22 02:18 PM
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What I’ve seen is most that don’t want it can’t pass it ! Just saying

Re: Random Drug Screening [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7729035
11/28/22 02:26 PM
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jbyrd what makes you think it works?

google pass a urine drug test


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Re: Random Drug Screening [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7729037
11/28/22 02:32 PM
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It was created by insurance companies as a way to welch out o paying insurance claims and gave businesses and government's discount insurance rates if they implemented it for them.

I they were serious and wanted to reduce accidents they would test them to see if they were smoking cigarettes or on their cell phone, or a drunk.

I doubt there have been more than a few accidents truly caused by drugs. High people dont drive much and do much better than drunks.

Re: Random Drug Screening [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7729043
11/28/22 02:39 PM
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they were passed to make old women think they are safer


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Random Drug Screening [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7729048
11/28/22 02:45 PM
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LOL, one of my brothers was fleet manager for quite a few years, 400 truck fleet.

Said he found drug stuff quite often, and worse yet, evidence of lot lizard liaisons...

Re: Random Drug Screening [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7729053
11/28/22 02:50 PM
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I don't know how random they are, at where I used to work the only people that got tested were those that there was zero doubt that they would pass and they seemed to get tested regularly, the questionable ones seemed to never come up on the random list, they were just fortunate I guess.

Re: Random Drug Screening [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7729054
11/28/22 02:51 PM
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When I was in the Coast Guard Reserve, we had random urine testing quarterly. A clerk from the office would draw three numbers from a hat. If your SS# ended in any of those three numbers, you were given a bottle to pee into. By year-end, all numbers were selected. As the only officer in the unit, I submitted my sample every quarter to avoid any questions of favoritism.

I had about 15 enlisted members in my small coastal unit. Nobody ever failed. I was later transferred to a large unit in an inland city. One member failed the HIV blood test, but it was never made public. He stopped attending drills and we were told not to contact him. Headquarters told him to see his personal doctor. He later received a discharge. Don't recall any drug failures at all. We had a zero tolerance level for testing. I retired in 1994. I wonder if zero tolerance is still enforced.

We sometimes retrieved bales of marijuana out of the ocean a few times a fisherman would bring us a bale that they found at sea. It was not uncommon for us to receive instructions to go to a set of coordinates and drift or patrol for hours at a time. We had to wear armored vests and life preservers at all times. They were both hot and bulky. A three or four-man crew would carry a .45 pistol, an M-16, and a Rem 870 shotgun loaded with Federal 2 3/4" 00 buckshot. The shotgun was carried with a loaded magazine and an empty barrel. We boarded every vessel we assisted regardless of the nature of the call for assistance. We randomly boarded a few other vessels when directed.

Re: Random Drug Screening [Re: Gary Benson] #7729056
11/28/22 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Drug testing politicians is as likely as an honest election.

Truth


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Re: Random Drug Screening [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7729058
11/28/22 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
What is the chance we can get a politician to do away with this?

It shouldn't be up to the government to tell business whether they can drug test. I, for one, welcome drug testing. It lessons the odds that I have my safety and possible life in the hands of some idiot druggie that obviously couldn't care less about his own life, let alone mine. I like to go home at the end of the day, not the hospital or the morgue. Pretty simple, if you don't like drug testing, find a job where they don't have it.


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Re: Random Drug Screening [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7729059
11/28/22 02:57 PM
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I’ve been passing them for 40 years for all the “must be guilty” folks. Wasn’t so much an inconvenience when I didn’t have a whole lot going on but all those years of working my (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) off has come to bear fruit and I have a lot on my plate, especially the things I enjoy. It has come to light that the necessity to have it does not outweigh the Right to be free from it.

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