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Re: Minimum Wage [Re: Chancey] #7732064
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Funny I just commented about inflation finally catching upwhile at the grocery store today . These Roma original thin crust pizzas have been 4 for $10 ever since I was in college ( Roughly 15 years ago) Went to get one today and seen they are now 2 for $9 - A 180% percent increase! Nope not doing it -they ain’t that great ! Lol. Time to start eating healthier I guess…

Re: Minimum Wage [Re: Chancey] #7732065
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Minimum wage is an outdated construct.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Minimum Wage [Re: Chancey] #7732066
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Originally Posted by Chancey
True Sniper, but minimum wage has not kept up with cost. Today $7.25 for an hours work won't even buy you a meal at the local fast food joint here. 25 years ago it did.

If you increase minimum wage, you never keep up with costs. It only temporarily helps those there, and hurts the people that are only a few steps above the old minimum.

Re: Minimum Wage [Re: Chancey] #7732067
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Chancey, no one will work for minimum wage. supply and demand. I prefer government stays out of wage negotiation.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Minimum Wage [Re: Chancey] #7732070
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Originally Posted by Chancey
$7.25/hour Waggler

Does anyone actually work for minimum wage there? Can hardly imagine that.


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Re: Minimum Wage [Re: Chancey] #7732072
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Costs and services have far out-paced wages for forty years now. It's always a catch up game that falls short.

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Originally Posted by Chancey
So, if everyone is paying above the $7.25/hour minimum wage, then why all the pushback to increase it?

What is wrong with minimum wage keeping up with inflation?

Nothing. It's just a talking point for Democrats when talking to ignorant people.


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Re: Minimum Wage [Re: Chancey] #7732075
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I agree Danny; and you are correct.

I saw on the Dairy Queen sign the other day that they were paying a starting wage of $14/hour. Scared a lot of folks in the ag industry that hire out and pay the local farm boys!

Re: Minimum Wage [Re: Chancey] #7732076
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Originally Posted by Chancey
So, if everyone is paying above the $7.25/hour minimum wage, then why all the pushback to increase it?

What is wrong with minimum wage keeping up with inflation?


Inflation should not be the driver of the economics. But to answer your question from experience is that our government does not protect us from the foreign markets. if you are a manufacturer and need to raise wages and pass that along to your customer Mexico or China WILL end up with the work. Costs need to be/and can be controlled. We as society are missing the big picture. Obamacare raised the cost (not lowered) the cost for health insurance and obamacare said you as an employer of 49 or more must pay for it. We need to wake up!

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Originally Posted by waggler
Originally Posted by Chancey
So, if everyone is paying above the $7.25/hour minimum wage, then why all the pushback to increase it?

What is wrong with minimum wage keeping up with inflation?

Nothing. It's just a talking point for Democrats when talking to ignorant people.


Agree with that Waggler, but I thought it was the Republicans pushing back on the "fight for 15" not the Democrats.

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All jobs around here pay more than minimum wage. Most fast food is 12-14hr. and still have trouble finding help.

Re: Minimum Wage [Re: Chancey] #7732082
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Heck,
Even democrats don't support a $15/hour minimum wage. Why is that? If everyone is paying more than 15, then why does it matter...? Other than the fact that I agree with Danny that the Gov should not be dictating wages.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/fight-for-15-dies-in-senate-with-8-democrats-voting-against

Re: Minimum Wage [Re: Chancey] #7732090
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No one pays minimum wage around here. They can't get help to show up for double it. Getting people to actually work if they do show up is a hole different issue from what my daughter is telling me.

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Originally Posted by SNIPERB🦝
Originally Posted by Chancey
True Sniper, but minimum wage has not kept up with cost. Today $7.25 for an hours work won't even buy you a meal at the local fast food joint here. 25 years ago it did.

If you increase minimum wage, you never keep up with costs. It only temporarily helps those there, and hurts the people that are only a few steps above the old minimum.



What's wrong with everything going up Sniper? If the minimum wage guys get an increase, then the guys just above them should get an equal increase.

Re: Minimum Wage [Re: waggler] #7732092
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Originally Posted by waggler
Originally Posted by Chancey
$7.25/hour Waggler

Does anyone actually work for minimum wage there? Can hardly imagine that.



Highschool kids do. Which is what minimum wage is intended for IMO; entry level people with no real skill set that need to be taught.

Re: Minimum Wage [Re: Steven 49er] #7732094
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Minimum wage is an outdated construct.


I agree Steven, but the value of ones labor to buy a lunch should not have decreased over time IMO.

Re: Minimum Wage [Re: Providence Farm] #7732097
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
No one pays minimum wage around here. They can't get help to show up for double it. Getting people to actually work if they do show up is a hole different issue from what my daughter is telling me.



This is true, I am trying to buy equipment for my job and I can't get it or the part. The small business owner is MN says he can't produce it cause he can't find the workers! Sad.

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You can blame loans and credit for the major increase in inflation. Houses only cost what they do because we stupidly allow people to take loans out for houses. I have a loan for my house. The other problem is credit and credit cards, again all are the main cause of how much the cost of things have gone up. Car loans, main reason vehicle prices keep going up. When you increase the available number of buyers, the demand makes the price go up.

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Chancy, it's not the governments job to set a minimum wage. That is up to the free market.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Minimum Wage [Re: Steven 49er] #7732117
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Chancy, it's not the governments job to set a minimum wage. That is up to the free market.




This x a million. I decide what I can afford to compensate someone to do the task I need done. That may be in x amount to do said task, $ per hour, trade or anything else myself and the person I'm entering into said agreement with. It goes the same for both parties. It's not the governments business and should have no involvement at all.

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