Too many, in fact.

Fixed it for you.

I won't argue with that.

My point is that it is so much easier to be liberal, because simple solutions, like Tax the rich for example, seem to make perfect sense. It takes some effort to think things through and rationalize why things are never as simple as they appear on the surface, and there are usually unintended consequences in the best of intentions.

I'll bite. Who was that? Gary Johnson? Someone that didn't have a snowball's chance of winning the election?

I should have took his money. lol

There is no candidate that will get rid of the minimum wage. I guess Hobbie is right, the answer is not voting.

Yote, my point is that in the 50s and 60s, if you were to earn $1.00 dollar then it was the equivalent of 1 silver dollar which is close to one ounce of silver. In todays world, that 1 dollar of silver is worth about $22 dollars. So, if you earned one dollar in 1964, it was worth $22 dollars now as far as I understand. So, to make the same dollar today as one did then, then they would have to work around 3 hours on current minimum wage in order to compensate the difference.

I don't understand how fiat money is sustainable and even works to be honest, but evidently it does because we have been using it for 50 years. But one thing for sure I can see, and that is that the current system is taking out the middle class and making the rich richer and the poor even more poor.

I don't think government should dictate wages; however, it seems they have to now because the system appears to be rigged.

As is happening now. If I want to hire someone that will show up and work I will have to pay they 3x minimum wage. No one makes people go to work for minimum wage or for 100 an hour.

I took a 6$ an hour pay cut 17 years ago to work where I do now. Benefits were better and work is steady, less dangerous, and now that I have seniority easy and layed back. I make less on the hour but the conditions are better and I make more in a year becuse it's steady and overtime is available.

I don't work 40 hrs more like 60 to 80. People chose where they work for several reasons. Money is not the only one. Some want to sit at a desk in the ac others want close to home or need hours they can be home with there kids. We all make choices. Many People that make much more than I do have much less money and are unhappy. Those new cars, big new house, fancy phones and clothes sure don't seem th make them happy like they thought. Yet there are other living on half what I do and are happy as can be. Share one old vehicle for the family live in a small house and live within their means and grateful.

If you don't make enough you have options. Reduce your spending, get skills that you can make more $ with, work more hours weather at your job on OT or a second or 3rd job.

It's not how much money you make but how much you can hold on to.

Life is pretty simple unless you are dumb enough to think minimum wage is intended to be a wage for someone other than a teenager. If you are over 20 or so and worried about what the minimum wage is, the system hasn't failed, you have.

X2 well said.

"The minimum wage was conceived as a way to help bolster wageworkers and decrease class stratification. It was first introduced in the United States with the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 (FLSA). Passed under President Roosevelt, this act called for the first national minimum wage of 25 cents an hour. This created a floor on wages in the labor market and overall helped to create fairer labor standards throughout the country."

"Despite Roosevelt’s intentions, the minimum wage did not continue to be a means of guaranteeing an economic floor for wageworkers. At the time, the actual poverty line was determined by multiplying estimated food costs by three. At its high point, the federal minimum wage could support a family of three above the poverty line, but by the 1980’s it could not even support a family of two. From January of 1981 to April of 1990, the federal minimum wage was not increased at all. In fact, in these nine years, the real value of the minimum wage, adjusted to 2012 dollars, decreased from $8.29 to $6.66."

That info right there will OD a lot of people. lol

Minimum wage should be about $60 an hour.
Inflation aint high enough yet.

Agree 100% Kansas Cat, but my point is that a teenager 25 years ago made more money and was able to buy many more things, than a teenager today; even more in the 50s and 60s.

Because inflation is sky high right now. Due to multiple reasons. People who used to work learned during Covid how to live off the system and are not returning to work. Biden put a stranglehold on US oil production which in turn increases the price of gas globally. Overregulation of the trucking industry coupled with high diesel prices has less truckers working and increases shipping costs greatly.

Right now no one can hire people for minimum wage... even McDonald's is starting new employees well above it. That is adding to the cost of everything. A dozen eggs here costs $5 because Kroger can't pay a teenager minimum wage to work 4 hours after school. If they have 10 entry level employees working 20 hours a week, that they have to pay $4/hr more than minimum wage just to get them to show up, that's $800 more a week in payroll. Someone has to eat that cost... and it's gonna be you... AND the worker who is now making more than they're worth.

What planet is everybody else on? When I was a teenager I was making maybe $200 a week working all kinds of hours. My youngest makes that a day now. lol

You just can't assume the economy to be a static thing. That's why central planners always fail because they assume the economy is static so all their projections are based on static math. You see it all the time with the CBO report on bills passing through congress. Spending programs always cost more than projected, increased tax rates never bring in the projected revenues, etc.

Your teenager makes $200 a day?!