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Re: How to Live On Your Own? [Re: PFC Davis] #7740498
12/11/22 12:49 AM
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I guess I forgot to add some other insight into it.
So, this past summer, I did a seasonal job that provided housing for a small sum of the paycheck and being able to buy my own groceries and what not was such a relief and nice feeling because I was actually more in control of my money when I actually had more expenses to worry about(which seems weird) and coming back home kinda threw things out a whack because I didn't have all the expenses. So long story short, Living on my own though not getting much money seemed nicer than moving back with my parents.
I'm also currently working at a tire shop working overtime and
And I do have some potential options if I do move out though it would probably need to be one of the following
Work the job I'm at and try finding a place to live/still going to college for civil engineering(with college still being completely covered)
Not go to college(due to being eliminated from eligibility/using my aid) and try to get a CDL so that I can be able to work more heavy equipment operator jobs
or go full time Guard/active army/government job
And I've considered all of them but I don't know what I should take(If I should take any)
I forgot to mention that I could technically go to college and actually get paid to go without needing to work but it would be a tight squeeze hence why I'm currently not attending classes at the moment and working overtime.

Last edited by PFC Davis; 12/11/22 12:53 AM.

A good life tip:

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Matthew 7:3
Re: How to Live On Your Own? [Re: PFC Davis] #7740505
12/11/22 01:13 AM
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I moved out at 17 . went to school , worked , got married at 21

that said I have an 18 and 19 year old living in my house right now my 21year old is at school probably won't be moving home this next summer

I am not pushing anyone to leave
my son works full time and is saving , he helps with heating oil and wood pays his own insurance , cell bill and truck.


I would say don't fret living at home a little longer but you should be putting away 50% of every check either for school or buying a house of your own when it is time to move out.

not sure how your parents bills are , but maybe do something to help and take on some of the home care chores , mowing the law shoveling snow if it snows there , make sure your doing your own laundry and make sure you help with dishes , take out the trash , be an asset it will get you that much more ready to live in your own house on your own when that time comes.
take this time to better yourself , get a better job , learn new skills


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: How to Live On Your Own? [Re: PFC Davis] #7740513
12/11/22 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by PFC Davis
I have a question for all the people who aren't currently living with their parents(sorry kids) advice. Because I really want to move out of my parents house sooner rather than later because I don't know how much I can take with living with them. And I know there are some benefits to stay home but the sight of those benefits seems to be growing foggier almost by the day. So I was curious how were you able to get away from your parents and make it out on your own because I would really like to know
I'll give you the points that are keeping me here and why I haven't moved out yet:
1-I don't have to pay rent/utilities
2-My job doesn't pay the greatest(I'll just give you an pay range of in the teens)
3-I'm still planning on going back to college and it's kind of a way to save money(sorta)
4-the family dogs
Also I am 20 yrs old just so you know.

Thanks,

Sam


You are supposed to feel that way at 20. GTO

You'll feel better about yourself and more importantly....chicks don't want a guy living in Moms basement.


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Re: How to Live On Your Own? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7740529
12/11/22 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
I don’t know how people do it now but I got married after graduation and just figured it out as things came up. lol

Me too

We had kids at 20.... we both worked and lived cheap
Trailer. 1 car. 1tv with antenna
1 bathroom. 1 house phone.

Kids want more now because the 90s on were prosperous so the kids had 2 of everything


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Re: How to Live On Your Own? [Re: PFC Davis] #7740531
12/11/22 02:20 AM
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These may sound like strange questions but here goes;

1) What time do you go to bed?
2) What time do you get up?
2,a) Assuming that you only make in the "mid teens" that means you probably don't work more than 1000 hours a year, that implies about 25 weeks per year; or in other words "part time" employment. What time do you get up on days that you don't work?
3) What are you passionate about?
4) Do you write "to-do" lists? I'd suggest writing a list the night before.

These are more or less rhetorical questions, I don't expect you to post the answers.

I get up in the morning because I like to get up and do things. If you have a hard time getting out of bed in the morning figure out why that is the case.

What guides you? What do you value? Do you have any bad habits that are holding you back? Figure these things out, be honest with yourself.

I have been self employed my entire life, my average income over the past 40+ years has been on rather low . However, I have amassed a net worth in the top 5% of Americans. I have done that all while dong the things I love to do, with plenty of time to travel, create lots of great friends and in general enjoy life a lot.

I assure you, you will survive if/when you move out of your folks place. Just get moving.



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Re: How to Live On Your Own? [Re: PFC Davis] #7740534
12/11/22 02:30 AM
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You could take Boco's advice and start dating Providence Farm's daughter.

Keith

Re: How to Live On Your Own? [Re: PFC Davis] #7740539
12/11/22 02:47 AM
12/11/22 02:47 AM
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How did the military go? Did you like it? Hate it? If you liked it, I'd go that route. 20 years and a military retirement would be hard to beat.


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Re: How to Live On Your Own? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7740635
12/11/22 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
How did the military go? Did you like it? Hate it? If you liked it, I'd go that route. 20 years and a military retirement would be hard to beat.


shocked


A good life tip:

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Matthew 7:3
Re: How to Live On Your Own? [Re: PFC Davis] #7740637
12/11/22 09:02 AM
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That doesn't sound too bad, and I could try and get orders so that I can go to school while working in the guard


A good life tip:

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Matthew 7:3
Re: How to Live On Your Own? [Re: PFC Davis] #7740653
12/11/22 09:28 AM
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I thought you already joined the military private.

Did you not?

You seem reluctant to answer that...


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Re: How to Live On Your Own? [Re: PFC Davis] #7740658
12/11/22 09:37 AM
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Y’all done made him change his name

Re: How to Live On Your Own? [Re: PFC Davis] #7740659
12/11/22 09:37 AM
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Well, I was tired of living with my parents. working at gas station, go to bar get up do it all over. Walked into USMC recruiter said get me out of here. Turned 21 out of bootcamp. 3 and a half years later called my brother who was USMC in Vietnam ask him what I should do. he said brother stay right where you at. So, 20 yrs in USMC later Im retired. Best advice I ever got. Not for everybody but you can do anything in this world if you put your mind to it and work hard to get it.


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Re: How to Live On Your Own? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7740660
12/11/22 09:37 AM
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I have, I'm just a weekend warrior at the moment and I'm currently serving a 6 yr with a bonus(that I haven't received yet). But I'm considering going full time.


A good life tip:

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Matthew 7:3
Re: How to Live On Your Own? [Re: patrapperbuster] #7740663
12/11/22 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by patrapperbuster
I would forget about the college part & invest in a Trade or Trade School instead


Agree. Go to college later if it makes sense. Or don't if it doesn't.

Re: How to Live On Your Own? [Re: PFC Davis] #7740694
12/11/22 10:30 AM
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I dont like our government. I figure if somebody invades you can go home and get your deer rifle. Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq. I do not believe any of those four conflicts protected Americans or our sovereignty. It is my opinion that after our troops did such a great job, overcoming a determined enemy at every turn, our politicians betrayed them. Betrayed them by not letting them do their job and betrayed them by simply quitting with nothing resolved.

If your thinking about a military career consider who your masters will be and what their track record is


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Re: How to Live On Your Own? [Re: PFC Davis] #7740707
12/11/22 10:47 AM
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If you get along with your family stay help them out with expenses and tell them your intentions or good luck and go for it

Re: How to Live On Your Own? [Re: PFC Davis] #7740712
12/11/22 10:53 AM
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I lived on my own (right after hs) for several years before getting married.
I say go for it! Give your parents a heads up you're wanting to move out.
You said you make in the teens range, is that hourly or yearly? Hourly, you'll do fine. Rent a studio or 1 bedroom apt.
Pick up ot or go full time.
You can do most college classes online.
Things you'll need cleaning stuff,plates, pots pans trash bags etc... learn to make multiple meals with the least amount of groceries. Keep eating out to a minimum.
Lower your bills any way you can.
Get furniture eventually
As others say figure your bills 1st.

Good luck

Re: How to Live On Your Own? [Re: PFC Davis] #7740732
12/11/22 11:23 AM
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Based on responses I’m guessing no one has given him the answer he wants to hear, lol.

Re: How to Live On Your Own? [Re: PFC Davis] #7740741
12/11/22 11:35 AM
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Like most questions on here. The discussion was already made! They just want to hear other people’s opinions! And hope one of them matches theirs.

Re: How to Live On Your Own? [Re: PFC Davis] #7740748
12/11/22 11:44 AM
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Well, it seems to be no-brainer if you want to live on your own. Go active duty and earn your own way. No housing cost, 3 squares a day, no medical costs and a decent paycheck, and a whole lot of bennies not listed.

A Private First Class is a enlisted soldier in the United States Army at DoD paygrade E-3. A Private First Class receives a monthly basic pay salary starting at $2,161 per month, with raises up to $2,436 per month once they have served for over 3 years.

In addition to basic pay, Private First Classs may receive additional pay allowances for housing and food, as well as special incentive pay for hostile fire and dangerous duties.

Including the most common pay allowances, the average total compensation for a Private First Class may range from $46,128.59 to $49,429.79 per year as of 2022.

Army Private First Class 2022 Salary Army Private First Class Basic Pay Table for 2022
Years Experience Monthly Basic Pay Yearly Basic Pay Drill Pay Hazard Pay
Starting Pay $2,160.60 / mo $25,927.20 / yr $72.02 / drill $150.00
Over 2 years $2,296.50 / mo $27,558.00 / yr $76.55 / drill $150.00
Over 3 years $2,435.70 / mo $29,228.40 / yr $81.19 / drill $150.00
Additional Pay & Allowances for an E-3
In addition to Basic Pay, a Private First Class may be eligible to receive several types of allowances and incentive pay.

Basic Allowance for Housing (BAH)
Basic Allowance for Housing is a monthly payment meant to subsidize a servicemember's housing while deployed. The amount of BAH received each month depends on the location in which they live.

The average Basic Housing Allowance for a Private First Class with dependants is $1,624.68, or $1,276.47 with no dependants.

Basic Allowance for Subsistance (BAS)
All enlisted members of the Army receive a monthly allowance for food and drink of $406.98.

Enlisted members' BAS is higher than officers' BAS, as enlisted members are generally responsible for buying their own food.

Hazard Pay / Hostile Fire Pay
A Private First Class may receive hazard pay of $150.00 / mo while serving in an active combat zone or subject to hostile fire or other hazards.


Last edited by Spade; 12/11/22 11:46 AM.

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