Re: Incompetent carpenter, help?
[Re: Donnersurvivor]
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Will the opening still be big enough after you add a 2x12? If so I would add one on the inside and the outside and be done with it. If the rough opening you have now is what you need for height then you have a little problem.
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Re: Incompetent carpenter, help?
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Gable end just set it on the top plate.
Hip end cut the inner stud of the doubles into a jack stud and slide it in. Explain it to me like I'm 5. Will the opening still be big enough after you add a 2x12? If so I would add one on the inside and the outside and be done with it. If the rough opening you have now is what you need for height then you have a little problem. Okay that's what I was thinking. Thanks!
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Re: Incompetent carpenter, help?
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Move the doubled up studs on each side over 3", add (2) shoulder studs on each side, then set the header. This is what I was (poorly) trying to explain.
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Re: Incompetent carpenter, help?
[Re: Donnersurvivor]
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Sorry this is my fault for not explaining. Trying to do double wide barn doors. That whole opening will be doors
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Re: Incompetent carpenter, help?
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Two 2x12's is still only 3" and your 2x4 walls are 3 1/2" so you can add a piece of 1/2" plywood between the two 2x12's to get your full 3 1/2" to match the studs.
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Re: Incompetent carpenter, help?
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Two 2x12's is still only 3" and your 2x4 walls are 3 1/2" so you can add a piece of 1/2" plywood between the two 2x12's to get your full 3 1/2" to match the studs. When I was framing we made headers out of 2 2x10 with a 2x4 and nailed the open end to the top plate. Longer spans might be flitched like you suggest. Usually 2x12 plywood sandwich glued and nailed both sides, sometimes clinched. We even did a few 2x12 1/2" steel bolted beams. Porch beams were usually boxed 2x with 2x4 or 6 top and bottom.
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Re: Incompetent carpenter, help?
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If it was me and the rough opening width was correct I would cut off the two inside boards the height of the header, (turn them into cripples), set the header on them and nail it, quick and easy. I am no carpenter but agree. Did a quick sketch of what I think was recommended. They would become the "jack" studs, not cripples. But is a good plan 
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Re: Incompetent carpenter, help?
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If it was me and the rough opening width was correct I would cut off the two inside boards the height of the header, (turn them into cripples), set the header on them and nail it, quick and easy. I am no carpenter but agree. Did a quick sketch of what I think was recommended. Whether you call them jack studs or shoulder studs doesn't much matter. However, if it matters to you with this building, code REQUIRES any opening 72 inches or more in width, must have two jacks on EACH side of the opening to support the header. What is that sitting on Donner ?
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