America was also built on horses and mules and manual labor. Not anymore.

Who wants to go back to those days?

Nations rise & fall based on their ability to provide energy.

Energy shortages lead to blackouts, rationing, & riots.

1 BILLION people across the world are at risk of power blackouts

Nuclear is the answer.

Yup, see "Niche Situations". Unfortunately there are some situations that just wont always work for solar panels the way that it does in more moderate climates.

And it's a big no on oil supply for anything more than 100 years. Permian Basin has 50B barrels of recoverable oil, the US consumes like 7B barrels of crude oil annually. The Permian Basin would get drained completely in less than 8 years if we used only that. If we use the current 40% of oil production for the USA as how much we would use from the Basin, that would be 2.72B barrels of crude oil annually and the Permian Basin would run dry of crude oil in less then 19 years.

Imported Oil, Imported Coal, Imported Natural Gas, Solar and Nuclear are the way forward. That means more refineries need to open for both oil and coal. Let somebody else destroy their country instead of us, no need to just mortgage our future away because of our inability to think in terms of 100, 250, 500 and 1000 year chunks.




No man, they don't. They literally don't at all, and unfortunately this is a mindset of the Western World. There are lots of countries that don't even have power 24/7, and might only have it for 4 hours a day. Some not at all and they get on just fine like we all did for tens of thousands of years prior. The world will not end, life will go on, yes those who are not prone to survival will die. We all will die at some point, so it is what it is.

Do you know what we did when we didn't have power for 30+ days in 105 degree heat with 90% humidity after Hurricane Laura? We survived, we drank water, we ate food. We basked in the joy of being able to wake up another day and enjoy this great life that we have. The world didn't end, we were fine, we spent a lot more time with our neighbors sharing stories about other time of no power. I think more people died from improper generator use than they did of any lack of power related event. It was a very nice time in that sense and it did feel a bit like going back to a better time.

Examples of democratic stable countries, with unreliable power/energy are??

Voting has consequences! SOLAR and WIND are junk!!!!! If there are any coal miners on this site, I wish you well. You miners are the backbone of American power. Coal, Natural Gas, Nuclear, is the reason your AC works! And Hydro, to a certain extent.

Climate Change will go down as one of the biggest scams in history. The earths climate has been changing for over 10,000 years.

I think MattLA is about the smartest guy here. He isn't even 30 years old yet I think!

Illinois is one giant coal field

I go by Roof Bolter because that and Blasting in WV is what I did most of my life in an underground WV Coal Mine. I have worked in High Top with 14 plus foot ceilings and in Low Coal in 3 foot ceilings. Most of the leftist morons do not understand how much more efficient Coal and Natural gas is as well as why we mine!! I do not want to try to support a family on McDonalds wages and worked hard for my 30.00 to 58.00 dollars an hour. They also never understand the Comradeship that we build amongst our fellow Miners. WHY is it OK for China to burn Coal in all of their Power Plants yet they want us to stop!! These Leftist Demonrats are mentally challenged and Joe Mansion is as well!!! I no longer am allowed back underground but do give training classes. One too many Blasts broke the Plaque loose in my body and it built up in my heart. I never knew what hit me. I was walking from the elevator to the Bath House one morning after Blasting about 350 feet one night and collapsed. I woke up in Morgantown WV University Hospital waiting for my wife to get there. I remember my Best friend David and Debbie bringing her in then waking up 2 weeks later. They sat with her the whole time. He is a fellow Miner and a great man. I had two pig valves put in and had two strokes while on the table. Then she took me to Florida so her Family could help her get me to Physical therapy. 3 years and I learned to walk and talk again. I do have issues with a lot of my memory but I am finally back in WV . This is the first year I was able to Deer Hunt and Trapping on our Farm in Clay County WV. This Season I killed a huge 9 point and a spike that had 14 inch long spikes that curved around but not a single fork. I still,love Coal Mining but they will not certify me to drop back underground which my wife very much likes that idea. Instead I give classes to get men certified in Shot Blasting which is nothing more than math and the training to use different types of explosives. Now I am back and going to enjoy the outdoors. I even our farm that borders on Thousands of acres of State Public land to hunt and trap on and Ponds that are too far to walk back into from the state side but close to my property and I trap and Gig them as well!! Coal right now is BEGGING for Miners but they want experienced miners called Black Hats not beginner Red Hats. I think that is a BIG Mistake!!! Get the young ones in and train them the way you want them. Us older miners are about gone.

Your story should be plenty enough reason for no American to ever want to mine coal, glad you can still function enough to trap. I do understand your point though and agree that if there is a job the government tries to "place" you in that it should be commensurate with what you earned mining coal. I hope we don't stop burning coal, but we should import it from other countries.

Dang man, get real! You just don't get it???

My grandpa worked at # 2 coal mine in Livingston Il. until he was 72 in 1954 a slab of shale broke his back they said he would never walk again but he walked out of the hospital these guys were tough but then he died from an infected toe in 1969 because he wouldn't go to the Dr. He was 87 and did it his way.

My great grandfather died in a coal mine cave in at 75 years old.

A nations wealth is directly relevant to its natural resources. The rest are just consumers.

If you don't utilize your resources, you're in the consumer catagory.

I see no problem with looking for better ways to power ourselves, especially when we only have a finite amount of something. That's being said though I don't get why we have to 100% cut out something that works and is progressively getting better.

Like let's not be Saudi and Kuwait.... because when their oild dries up their SCREWED. But at the same time can't we please not be Germany right now

Stagnation is bad but moving too fast without a good plan just because it sounds good is just retarded

We've got lots of coal. We've got lots of oil. There is no reason not to use it.

Yes and technology is moving so fast they keep finding more effective ways of finding and extracting more.
Back in the 70's the chicken littles were screaming we were going to run out in 10 yrs???

Here it is 50 yrs later now we have 4-500 yrs worth-Don't worry be Happy!!!

Same with natural gas.

A legend in his own mind???